Can I just say, this thing about English fans abroad.... Manchester United fans have never caused any trouble in Europe. We choose to raid the fck out of our own ground instead... and our Chief Exec's house
Only one club got all English clubs banned from Europe, their name is on the tip of my tongue, hang on while I just spit it out.
Oh and we don't stop black folk from getting on the Paris metro whilst singing, we're racist and we like it. The French love us
That was kinda what I was saying in my initial post. Do we need to rehash this **** again? It never ends well
We all know that when an English football fan travels abroad, especially wearing an English or club shirt, normally surrounded by beer, it's going to end badly. We might not start the trouble, in fact we could be all quite innocently just enjoying the mediteranean sun, quietly, but decades of reputation is scoulded into our history, even the authorities think it. It's even reason why I refuse to go to places such as Benidorm, because the picture I invisage is what I've said constantly on this thread, dirty filthy drunk English. We only had to look what happened at Wembley for the EURO 2020 Final 'mindless thugs' - https://news.sky.com/story/euro-202...s-thugs-stormed-wembley-report-finds-12485182 We like to believe we have changed, but we haven't, the English social desease still exists, it's still there if you look hard enough. As for the racism, do we really need to go there, ask Toney. Hillsborough was not Liverpool's fault, that was Maggies war on the working classes, which still persists in todays game in various ways, especially at Premier League level. Heysel, well I don't need to repeat that. So when images splash our TV Screens from France of Liverpool shirts in large numbers, we can't but help but relive those awful images of the past, a past that should NEVER be forgotten, because it will happen again one day in some club or international colour. For me, sorry is pointless, it's meaningless words, the way you change people's thoughts and false interpretations is how you behave in the future, and creating threads because you feel unjustly done by, overlooks the tragedies of the past where football fans never came home. Everyone knows the elephant in the room, even if you choose to be blind to it or dismiss it. EURO 2020 merely proved, nothing has changed - Everton fans blocking roads to stop players from leaving the ground after a poor performance proves nothing has changed - if people feel scared or at risk, nothing has changed, regardless of whom is to blame - it just happens on this most recent ocassion, the police were to blame.
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