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Kuszczak angry at Ferguson's petty loan block

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Jerel Ifil, Nov 5, 2011.

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  1. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    No idea. Maybe he is telling the truth or maybe he is lying through his arse. Thats my point there is only his word.
     
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  2. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    Have you read the article?

    Ferguson was happy to send him to Donny or Sheff U, just not to Leeds. Petty thing to do and I find it hilarious that it's caused a bit of unrest behind the scenes. We're more than happy with McCarthy as our backup keeper now, but it's still ****ing funny how precious 'Fergie' gets as soon as we dare insult/defeat his son, or sing nasty things about his club when they come to Elland Road or brick his hotel or whatever **** we last did that annoyed his delicate little sensitivities.

    The 'slave' comment was ridiculous - I'd expect nothing else from a player who's been exposed to the Scum Mentality for so many years. But Ferguson's being laughable again, just like when he withdrew all his players from Preston when Wifebeater left them or when he stopped talking to the BBC because they dared to out his other beloved dodgy **** of a son as a bent twat. UIR - of course he has the right to be a total cock if he wants to be, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized for it.

    You drop off the tin foil hats at Elland Road. I'll drop off the jester hats at Old Trafford. <ok>

    Why the hell would Kuszczak pull those clubs and the whole argument of his out of thin air? If he were lying, the club would have made a statement about it. You're being very naive and dismissive. The onus of proof is on you to show Kuszczak was false now he's had the first word. That's generally how logic/argument/debate works in civilized society.

    If he'd totally lied about it, he could get taken to court. He's telling the truth and it makes your 'legendary' manager look like a bitter cock.
     
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  3. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Until UTD stop paying his wages, he does what he is told, end of.
     
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  4. Constcrepe

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    Again with the statements when there is no proof. I know I'll get something printed in the media about a politician or sportsman, have no proof to back it up but guess what it must be true since the onus is on everyone else to prove it otherwise!! <laugh> After all, thats how logic/argument/debate works in a civilised society. <doh>

    Anyway it is pretty silly of SAF to deny Kuszczak a move to Leeds if he intended just to be spiteful to Leeds. I mean if true, its hardly like Leeds are a threat to Utd nor do they really matter. What is it now, 25 places between Man Utd and Leeds? Hardly close. ;)
     
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  5. BringBackfootie

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    Not for teh fisrt time Fergie uses players as his personal toys. Lending players to friends, pulling them back to United for Non football reasons like his son getting the sack for being a **** manager.

    Lending players out as per his deal with Robo and the Korean guy to new buyers of English clubs.


    Fergie is rotten to the core, but so are all the politicians yet everyone carries on as if it is not so.. no shock there.
     
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  6. BringBackfootie

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    Proof Schmoof,


    Fergie treats players at teh club like ****. Tell all your bollox to the players he ****ed around that he lent to his son
     
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  7. Jerel Ifil

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    Every moron and his dog knows that. But it takes a thinking man to realize what a pernickety little spaz Ferguson's acting like in this situation.

    It's first-hand witness evidence. What more bloody proof do you want?! A live video of Ferguson sitting behind his desk, cackling as he reads the Leeds United loan request which Simon Grayson faxed through, before tearing it up and doing a little pre-jizz at the thought of how many man points he'll get round the dressing room with Ferdy an the boyz now he's 'put the Leeds scum in their place'?

    If you're working with that politician or sportsman, that's fine. After all, Kuszczak was the direct subject of the rejected loan request. But if you're just a layman, that's a very dense way of trying to analogize what's happened. Again, a bit naive and dismissive really.

    I know. I think it's probably like I say because our fans upset him (boo ****ing hoo) or his precious little son when we last played the Uniteds of Manchester and Peterborough.

    <applause> <ok>
     
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  8. Constcrepe

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    Yeah yeah. I'm sure Liverpool never badly treated any of their players? How about Sander Westerveld who Gerard Houllier dumped."

    "I'm so upset about the way he let me go", Westerveld says. "If Houllier had been open with me, fine. But everything happened behind my back.

    "I knew before the game that something funny was something was going on. A couple of journalists in Holland warned me that Liverpool were dealing with Dudek and his agent has since told me that they'd been negotiating for six weeks by then. But Houllier told me that the rumours were lies."

    But wait a minute!! This is only one persons word!! Proof alert!!! Nah. Don't need proof, after all thats how logic/argument/debate works in a civilised society. <laugh>
     
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  9. Bloody Wanker

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    Clutching at straws.
     
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  10. Simon21-LUFC

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    We don't need proof because all it would take for it to be unproven would be for Ferguson, Donny or Sheff U to come out and say it wasn't true. This hasn't happened, therefore we can safely assume Kuzczack is telling the truth. Or is that too difficult a concept for you to understand?
     
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  11. Constcrepe

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    Did Doncaster or Sheffield Utd actually approach Man Utd for Kuzczack or again are people taking him at his word?

    As I said before even if true, who cares!!! Kuzczack is a prat for saying these pathetic slave claims, and Leeds...well they are insignificant. Who cares if he even went there on a free. IMO SAF held onto him because of the inexperience of his 3 first team keepers. He's entitled to do so and frankly I do not care about Kuzczack.
     
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  12. Simon21-LUFC

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    Backtracking I see. The point is Ferguson stopped him coming on loan to us because of who we are, Kuzczack clearly isn't lying about Sheff U and Donny because any one of the parties involved could say he's lying, which they haven't.
     
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  13. Jerel Ifil

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    Clearly not about experience, as people have pointed out several times:

    He could go out on loan, just not to a big club. Ferguson's bitter streak.
     
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  14. Constcrepe

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    Backtracking? Hell no. I said at the beginning that IMO SAF had a reason to hold onto him. However I do not care where the guy goes. Also you say Sheffield United or Doncaster haven't said he is lying. Well why don't you ask them then.

    Not about experience as some have pointed out? Some people have agreed that De Gea and Amos are quite inexperienced and that Lindegaard has about 4 caps to his name and some games in Denmark and Norway. Hardly top flight football when compared to the Premier League. Yeah you're right, the experience angle was well and truely dealt with. <doh>
     
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  15. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    What....whiney nosed ****ing moaning bastard crying over the 4th choice keeper at Man utd?

    Yeh, I can see why he wouldnt want him to go there.

    oh lets not forget how your club is run, the fact your fans despise Man Utd and have been giving paul rachubka grief for reasons including his Man Utd past and that PIG opens his ****ing mouth way to many times yet hasnt done **** all to warrant it.
     
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  16. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    I think we have figured out why Man Utd are the most successful football club in English football history and the most successful over the past 20 years....

    The players dont ****ing run our club, thats the bosses job.
     
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  17. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    If Ferguson wanted to keep him for the experience

    Leeds, Donny and Sheff United loan requests come in or are considered
    Ferguson rejects them all and tells Kuszczak he needs to stay
    Kuszczak makes up a story out of the blue which randomly involves Leeds, then Sheff U and Donny, and inexplicably attacks the club's actions which didn't ever happen

    If Ferguson wasn't bothered about his experience and was happy to let him go elsewhere (unless it's Leeds, of course)

    Leeds, Donny and Sheff United loan requests come in or are considered
    Kuszczak says he wants a loan spell to further his Euro 2012 chances
    Ferguson says he can only go to Donny or Sheff United
    Kuszczak gets angry that he's being denied a chance at the top of the second division with a big club
    Kuszczak tells the press as much, mentioning the two ****holes he had the option of going to


    Yeah, I know which one is the more plausible. Hope that makes is clear for you now I've written it in clear, chronological terms for you. :)
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    You forgot to mention the fact hes a slave.

    Slaves seem to be getting paid much much more these days.
     
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  19. Constcrepe

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    How's this for being plausible. I don't care if he's lying or indeed right!!!! I don't care if he went to you on loan or was given a free. Very few Utd fans care if Kuszczak plays for the Utd reserves or plays in the 2nd tier of English football. He obviously didn't care too much in Sept 2008 when he committed himself to Utd until June 2012. Tough Tomasz that's life. You're well paid and now, man up.
     
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  20. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Hes had many chances aswell and has fluffed them all. Blackburn last season was the final straw.
     
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