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Off Topic What Happened In Knowsley Last Week

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Angelicnumber16, Feb 14, 2023.

  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    So the mainstream media have been flagging this incident at the migrant hotel in a suburb of Liverpool as right wing extremism and hate after a peaceful protest, but that's beyond ridiculous, in an area of the country that's about as anti Tory and anti right wing as it's possible to be.

    The people who subsequently turned up with hammers and who then set fire to Police vehicles may have come from outside Liverpool but I doubt very much if they were local. Bandwagon jumpers who saw an opportunity for a bit of mischief is my guess, and they were simply out to cause chaos like the BLM supporters who toppled Colstons statue in Bristol.

    There is clear footage of a 25 year old asylum seeker repeatedly asking a 15 year old school girl for her phone number, and that was just the latest in a series of episodes where groups of young men have also been gathering outside a local girls only school and harassing young women over the past few weeks. She rightly tells him on camera 'I'm 15, and you could go to jail for this sort of thing'

    The Government are asking for severe and ongoing public disturbances across the country outside such establishments going forward, as more and more parents, grandparents, and other family members finally realise that allowing thousands upon thousands of undocumented single young men, who come here from countries with different idealogies where women and girls are not considered worthy of anything like equality or respect, to walk around the towns and cities of this country, and that serious issues are going to arise time and time again.

    Do they perhaps need an abduction, rape, or maybe a murder of a teenage girl to wake up to the fact that they are wilfully creating a ticking time bomb that could be avoided by being a bit tough on these people ? Or will they continue to ignore it like they did with the grooming gangs ?

    Malmo went exactly this way and became the rape capital of Europe as their politicians turned a blind eye and due to soft laws that didn't look after the interests of the local population, and actually favoured immigrants. Sound familiar ?

    Now after loads of upsetting incidents, Sweden have a right wing government in place with a very strict anti immigration policy and they just have to deal with those remaining on Swedish soil who misbehave themselves.

    What it needs is some asylum seeker hotels to be opened in leafy Surrey next to where Tory MP's live, or in North London where Starmer and co have multi million pound town houses and see how long they'd put up with their kids or relatives being hassled.

    And the middle class pink haired women who turn up from the Care for Calais charity at such events also need to take a long hard look at themselves and what they are actually supporting. Maybe they should be given an arranged marriage to one and see if their views change then ?
     
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  2. Red Robin

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    Not seeing this on the mainstream news and the poor guy died as a result off the attack-

    Remember years ago when you read about people being stabbed through the heart with a machete? No, me neither. This was in that once peaceful resort of Great Yarmouth. What have they done to us?

     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    We're all sitting on a powder keg whether it's Liverpool or the Winford Hotel or Holiday Inn down by Bristol Airport.
    British people will take matters into their own hands when they're forced to, and once it starts it will be impossible to stop.
     
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    Getting worse, and chuck in the Albanian criminal gangs and you've got a recipe for disaster
     
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    they are probablt nympho's and it suits them to increase the younger male population .......
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Could be
    But then again they could be the exact opposite and wear Doc Martins !
     
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    I mean beauty is only skin deep but where do you draw the line?...
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh>
     
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    Angelic.

    Just wait till Keir, Abbott and Lammy are in government.

    It will be open house.
     
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    & it isn’t now? <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  11. invermeremike

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    Being a very regular reader of the news from the old country leaves me shocked to the core with what has happened back there since my departure. The immigration issues are there for all to see and it makes me wonder who the hell let it get so bad? When I left for Canada in 1975 the main racial/immigration issues were with the Windrush generations, primarily from the Caribbean, followed by the peoples ejected from Uganda by Idi Amin, who primarily appear to have settled in the Midlands or West London areas. It would appear that most of the problems you are seeing today started with joining the E.U. when citizens were allowed to migrate to any member country after a specific period of time, and to be honest I am not completely up on what issues that caused in the U.K.

    The problem looks to have worsened with the migrants from countries outside the E.U. filtering themselves through Europe and on to boats to cross the Channel. Are these peoples able to get benefits when they arrive or do the tax payers just foot the bills for hotels, food and living costs? The cost of housing for these unwanted guests has hit a ceiling way beyond an acceptable or sustainable level and so is it any wonder that the real residents voice their anger at the cost and intrusion? Some of the newly minted countries who joined the E.U. haven't exactly sent you the cream of the crop, and I suspect that most of the organized crime is committed by these ne'er do wells. I am not so sure that the Rwanda experiment, if it is still active, will work but the Border Forces must be given an acceptable solution to this grievous problem, otherwise it will lead to even more violence than has been see in Knowsley and the Manston holding tanks.

    The sanctions need to be brutal in their makeup and, although some compassion has to be exercised, the hammer has to come down hard with deportations leading the way. One of the big issues to overcome looks to be the protection offered by some of the same ethnicities who are providing a sanctuary to keep them out of the public eye, therefore making the issue even worse. Anyone found giving work or any other protection from the authorities need to lose their right to whatever kind of residency they have in the U.K. including citizenship as a last resort. Allowing any person who has been arrested for illegal immigration to be released pending further inquiries only permits them to go further down the rabbit hole, never to be seen again. How many more governments are going to soft shoe the problem with false promises and little action, so as not to pee off the goodies, before the violence overtakes common sense? I know there are some heart tugging decisions to be made but the England I left in 1975 is not there anymore and the likelihood of it ever returning is draining right in front of your eyes, if indeed it hasn't already disappeared below the waves. It breaks my heart to see the legacy created by my parents and grandparents, who fought two world wars to keep England a green and pleasant land, all go to waste to accommodate peoples who only want the fully inclusive package, and all of the benefits it bears.
     
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  12. Cliftonville

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    If the far right, the real far right were to stage a demonstration in a working class area in Liverpool (anywhere) the consequences would be?

    Its a bullshit narrative. A narrative that is used to mask pre-existing tensions caused by housing significant numbers of asylum seekers/migrants in an area with its own problems.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly
    Filling these hotels in such areas will have ‘consequences’
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I know you come back here occasionally Mike, but the country you left in 1975, and the country I grew up in are long gone and I’m afraid won’t ever return
    Anyone that comes here illegally is almost impossible to get rid of due to the lawyers who make millions out of defending them, and the scores of do gooders who wring their hands and tell the majority of people who think the situation is totally out of control and heading for disaster right wing racists
    Our population has exploded by nearly 10 million in the last 20 years but we have a low birth rate of 1.6 per couple which isn’t enough to sustain the population in years to come
    But because the country continues to take everyone who comes here, it’s no wonder that everything is broken beyond repair and whilst British families live in poverty, while illegal immigrants live in 4 star hotels with immediate access to health care to prove to the rest of the world what decent people we are.

    And yes it’s bad, very bad indeed, but as Redprintt rightly points out, it will be even worse when Labour win the next election

    And in addition, a group of charities have now come together to denounce attacks (there haven’t been any by the way) on asylum seekers by ‘right wing racists’
    The same charities that are given taxpayers money to fund them !!

    More protests are planned against these hotels so it might get tasty because frankly British people have been too slow and two compliant so far, but you get the feeling things might start to get very interesting now
     
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    89513C1F-2957-47D9-8520-D69B00268F00.jpeg The country has been invaded by mass illegals allowed in by this pathetic and weak Tory government.We have a massive issue on our hands.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    If only we had a Government who would grow a pair and enforce their own laws !
     
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    I’m sure you don’t condone violence of any kind :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    There is a time and a place for force being used whether it’s verbal or physical
    The state this country is in is due in no small part to lack of discipline being applied in all walks of life and everything around being too soft in case we hurt peoples feelings or are seen to not be doing what the elite want us to do.

    Look where these sorts of namby pamby attitudes have taken the whole world in fact !
    All we’ve done is produced a generation of snowflakes, who will cry and scream if you use the wrong pronoun, instead of a generation of kids who show respect, want to work hard to better themselves, and who would defend themselves and their countries in times of need.

    Our Western society is basically broken. The Ukrainians have my respect. They sent a lot of their women folk and children way from danger and the men stayed behind to defend their homeland.
    The mirror opposite of what would happen here, and that fact is also replicated by the illegals arriving from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. They're not refugees, and they've left their woman and kids behind to face whatever the consequences will be at home, while they look to illegally infiltrate other countries.
     
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    Much of that I can see the logic in, however I can’t condone violence. It’s what autocratic societies do when people have a different view, close it down, lock people up, it’s a very fine line.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I'm anti violence too, but I'm very much pro law and order. Let's call it force then.
    For example, if Avon & Somerset Police had done their job forcibly, and properly, and had stopped the rabble who toppled Edward Colston's statue and dumped it in Bristol Docks, I would have been a lot happier, and it would have made others in Oxford, London and elsewhere think twice about mindless woke vandalism against OUR history, whether its good, bad or indifferent.
    Equally the Just Stop Oil idiots who make the lives of thousands of law abiding citizens who are trying to get to work and go about their daily lives a misery by gluing themselves to roads or to overhead gantries, and where the Police are offering the same protestors drinks, and gently leaving them alone to block roads instead of forcibly dragging them away to a jail cell, that's where I, and millions of others have a major issue.
     
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