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Discussion in 'Celtic' started by DevAdvocate, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Thomas The Cat

    Thomas The Cat Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  2. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Maybe it was the Institutionally biased BBC who operated the TV?

    The bastards.
     
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  3. DevAdvocate

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    The first reports of anti-social behaviour - missiles being thrown at the entertainers on the stage in Piccadilly Gardens and fighting between fans - came at 11.30am on the day of the final - more than eight hours before kick-off.

    Problems with drunken, anti-social and criminal behaviour continued throughout the afternoon and early evening in Piccadilly Gardens as tens of thousands of fans in Albert Square, Cathedral Gardens and elsewhere in the city were enjoying a more carnival atmosphere with little trouble.

    Although there was a problem with the signal to the big screen in Piccadilly Gardens at the beginning of the match, it was within minutes of being fixed when drunken and violent behaviour by a significant number but small minority of people meant technicians had to abandon their attempts to fix it.

    "It is clear that several hundred visitors to the city were either so drunk or so intent on causing trouble that they spoiled the enjoyment of many thousands of genuine supporters and caused major disruption to other users of the city centre.

    http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/meetings_info.php?meetingID=716
     
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  4. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    not one second of the match came on the big screen so there's the first lie

    the screen was surrounded by a fence (apart from the screen side obviously) so how can you pelt people who are totally surrounded? the screen was pelted yes. there wasnt a techinician in sight.
     
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  5. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    <laugh> pull the other one.
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

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    12.3 All screens were delivered to their respective sites on Tuesday 13th May, the
    system was set up and full, clear signals were recorded at each site.

    12.4 Lightmedia have reported that between 9am and 5.30pm all screens were
    operating fine. There were several incidents of bottles or cans being thrown
    at the screens or technicians but no problems with the operation.

    12.5 In the light of the pressure being experienced in all the city centre fan zones,
    the Velodrome contingency screens were deployed at 5.30pm. In Piccadilly
    Gardens, difficulties with signal reception started at about 5.30pm with a
    momentary glitch returning to normal. Fans were not aware of this as the
    screen was showing slides and DVDs provided by the Council. Many were
    very drunk outside the technicians’ station however and radio contact told the
    screen company that bottles were being thrown and services such as First Aid
    and Merchandising were under threat.

    12.6 A signal booster was sent for to strengthen the signal. New antenna and a
    new receiver were obtained and installed at 6.10pm.

    12.7 The signal got worse however and a decision was taken to use a microwave
    system that was available from the Velodrome, already planned as a back up
    system in case of failure at any of the sites.

    12.8 Lightmedia reported increased incidents of violence outside the technical
    cabin at 6.30pm. When one of the technicians went out onto the cabin roof to
    realign the aerial he was pelted with bottles and missiles, one of which hit him
    on the forehead. At this stage they couldn’t get hold of events control or
    security as mobile phones were not working. Aware that they were working in
    a very volatile area the technical team continued to seek a solution to the
    signal malfunction and just after 7pm the microwave and power supply
    arrived. A message on the screen announcing that the system would be up
    and running shortly and to be patient, appeared to make the fans’ behaviour
    worse.

    12.9 In the light of comments in the media and elsewhere it must be clarified and
    emphasised that the issue at Piccadilly Gardens related to the strength of the
    signal, not the screen. The provision of two, three or more screens would
    have made no difference. Without the signal there could be no picture.

    12.10 Attempts to access the roof to install the receiver became impossible because
    of the violence being perpetrated against them. At 7.30pm the message was
    relayed on the screens telling fans of other screen locations. The Director of
    Lightmedia who was present for the whole of this operation believes they were
    in serious danger and instructed his staff to abandon the screen and run. The
    Director of Lightmedia also maintains that, but for the violence of the crowd,
    the signal could and would have been rectified within 5 to 10 minutes at
    7.30pm.

    12.11 The inability of the screen company to complete their work and to abandon
    the screen was followed by an announcement that an alternative venue was
    being provided and fans should go to the Velodrome.

    12.12 Lightmedia has spent time since the match investigating the problem and one
    specific line of enquiry has focused on the Vodafone transmitter locations and
    the possibility that the sheer volume of traffic meant the phone systems went
    down and potentially interfered with the signals being received by Freeview.

    12.13 This report of the signal failure has been raised with Vodafone. They
    expanded the network around the stadium, aware of the UEFA Cup Final and
    the requirement for maximum capacity, however they were unaware until the
    day, of the decision to utilise big screens in the city centre and the consequent
    gathering of large numbers of people. The network capacity for mobile phone
    traffic on Wednesday 14th May therefore was for a normal working day. With
    huge numbers of people trying to use mobile phones (New Years Eve effect)
    they confirm that this will have led to communication difficulties in key parts of
    the city centre.

    12.14 Vodafone are unable to account for the failure of the signal to the screen
    however and the City Council will undertake further investigation into this.
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    Another conspiracy no doubt, cooked up by Lightmedia, Vodafone and the City Council
     
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  8. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    so it was our fault then. too many phone calls. damn it.

    who's idea was it to move 50,000 angry drunk chelsea fans to a velodrome that holds 3000 people?
     
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  9. EDGE

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    Its a sweep sweep job.

    Everycunt and their da knows that they deliberatley switched the screens off, and quite why you wish to spend so much internet time investigating the GMC site for "clarifuckayshaun" is quite sad and shows you up as being a bitter wee man.

    How doesn one plead?
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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    No clarification needed, i'm simply telling you what the "Official" report says. You and any Gers fan can tell me "you saw no such thing" or that certain things happened for a "fact" but unless you are omnipresent you have no way of knowing.

    I have no idea if the report is accurate or a tissue of lies and if truth be told neither do you.
     
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  11. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    the official report is bullshit.

    they pulled the plug to stop a deadly crush

    end of story.

    The fact that the riot police were waiting outside Piccadilly gardens at KO time proves it for me, you know the same ones who "were drafted in later that night"
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

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    You may be right but you were not everywhere in Manchester at the same time
     
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  13. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    I was at the place where it started though and witnessed alot of ****. which i still have on film on an old memory stick somewhere. 1 video showing a local asian man in a suit being ragdolled to the floor by a copper for trying to get to his car.
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

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    He deserved it no doubt.
     
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  15. The Raging Oxter

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    Have you ever considered it was because your fans went to Manchester with something of a reputation for causing trouble, especially at European games?

    It would have been remiss of them not to be ready to take action, a point that was surely proven as the day and night progressed.
     
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  16. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    why was it claimed they were drafted in from liverpool later that night?
     
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  17. Magic Laudrup 11

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    I was at the Trafalgar Square site. I left from one exit with my brother, 3 of our mates were forced out a different exit. Riot police were at both exits as soon as people started leaving.

    It's not the first time police have been accused of unneccesary tactics for crowd control and it will not be the last.
     
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  18. The Raging Oxter

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    Perhaps for the same reason I gave above?
     
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  19. Girvan Loyal 1690

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    well he was a paki....

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