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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Doc, Feb 10, 2023.

  1. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This is why I’d like someone with at least a reasonable win percentage at PL level. The PL is different it catches you out, having a small squad and being too set in his ways caught Bielsa out. Jesse was caught out too be it his lack of coaching at a higher level
     
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  2. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    I'd say I don't want to be disrespectful towards certain members of the fanbase but... There are certain members who are beyond ****ING deluded. They've got ideas of Grandeur from the Revie and O'Leary days. People are to come to us because we're Leeds and that's the reason they need. McGiligan is the biggest one with a media presence I can see.
     
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  3. Doc

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    Thought the same yesterday mate I would have no problems with him…
     
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  4. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I think he might actually be perfect for us. Since Spurs he's managed in Russia, China, and France. He's had big club experience with Porto and Chelsea. We don't need to pay another club to gain his services and he's been out of English management for 10 years so he's become obscure enough for us to pick him up plus the younger fans who really have a clue on who he is,
     
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  5. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    Completely different scenario. Bielsa was out of work. Would he have walked out on Bilbao to come to us in February?

    Absolutely not.

    We as fans can see the potential of this club, in fact I'd go as far to say we vastly overestimate the potential of this club in the current world of football. Outsiders don't see us as a huge global club. Even if I was Thomas Franks personal advisor I'd tell him to stay at Brentford. Same with Kompany, they are on the crest of a wave, we are...erm...on an 18 month hellish run of results.

    You could even go as far as Slot at Feyenoord and Iraola at Vallecano. They should stay where they are as they are on the cusp of doing something great where they are. We are not the catch of the century that alot of us think we are.
     
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  6. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    We’ll have to agree to disagree on Thomas.

    £1.5m a year compared to £4.5m wages

    A far greater fan base meaning you don’t always sell your top talent and when you do you can spend in excess of £160m building your team.

    On the verge of the 49ers taking control so finances set to get even better.

    I think anyone feeling Brentford is a better gig than Leeds United needs to give their head a wobble

    He’s going to be 50 this year, when does he want the challenge or step up
     
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  7. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

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    Correct.....sad to admit as once upon a time we where the catch you say, and for some unfathomable reason the real mega rich don't seem to want to take a punt....let me see what's at the back of the sofa ;)
     
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  8. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    The flip side is that he's 50 and probably feels he has a job as long as he wants at Brentford.

    If he came here, he might only last until summer. Even if he does well, the new owners might want to go their own way.

    He should 100% stay where he is. It's the sensible decision.
     
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  9. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Is that what motivates a coach having a job for life, I’m sure most want a bit more excitement then plodding through
     
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    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I’d rather Emma :emoticon-0115-inlov
     
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  11. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    It's up to the individual. He might want out at 55.

    Plus, if we can't buy out the 7 million to Vallecano, how the hell can we buy his contract out at Brentford AND give them compensation AND give him big wages?
     
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  12. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It’s not we can’t afford to, it’s that he has to buy it out himself and Leeds can’t give him the money too as we’ve not been given permission to speak to him. That’s what the mess and complications are, it’s not a straightforward release fee
     
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    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Get a bank loan and we pay him a signing on fee
     
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    Mate, I offered you fame and fortune during lockdown but you didn’t want to give up your paper round <laugh>
     
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    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    How’s business going mate, still keeping busy?
     
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    We have been incredibly lucky over a few difficult years but, yes, all good thanks pal :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    I see now Marsch has gone, it’s ok to say we played well and were unlucky.

    Ultimately for all our promise and endeavour it generally takes us too many chances to score relative to the opposition at this level. Been the same all season.
     
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    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    Skubala out
     
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  19. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Even Roy Keane said if Leeds had played with that intensity against Forest they’d have won
     
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  20. NostradEmus

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    They did in the first half and had enough clear opportunities to win 3 games comfortably. However, Sinisterra, Bamford and Gnonto couldn't finish off relatively easy chances. Today it was Summerville that failed at an easy chance.

    It's irrelevant who is in charge, or what system you play. Until our strike players start hitting the net, we won't win any games.
     
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