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Nigel Pearson's Situation

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by mussiesredhat, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    1) Due to finances, Hull City will not, and would never have been promoted this season. Anything we have now is above expectation.
    2) Nigel Pearson steered the ship through very rocky waters and knew what he was getting into.
    3) Something happened on the Bullard sacking involing, what he saw as an innocent party, Joe Corrigan forcing him to lose his cool persona. This has probably been the tip of the iceberg as this year has progressed.
    4) I repeat, he knew what he was getting into, but maybe the reality has been harder than he envisaged.
    5) Number 69 with chips comes along offering him financial security regardless of success or failure.
    6) Nigel Pearson has over-achieved throughout our year zero scenario and re-established Hull City for the start of a new beginning next season.
    7) My worry is that internal politics at the club take a shift away from the Harrogate set towards the failed Stockport equivalent.
    8) Hopefully Adam Pearson will retain some control over Mark McQuire.
    9) The next managerial recruitment could be make or break!
     
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  2. Nick HCAFC

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    Number 9 is the critical one Mussies, if they get the wrong man in now all progress is going to be lost and Pearson has a scary liking for some dodgy managers Nigel and Brownie excepted (Megson/Jewell/Parkinson etc)
     
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  3. westhulltiger

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    Karl Robinson/John Gorman are names that keep getting mentioned to me by several people! Not sure whether I would be for or against this
     
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  4. KC Kid

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    I am more worried about him taking any of the other backroom staff. I feel that the type of player we have got (regardless of what they have delivered) was better suited for the club. Do not want to lose Craig or any of the scouts.

    :emoticon-0106-cryin
     
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  5. westhulltiger

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    If NP goes, his backroom staff will follow
     
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  6. cheshireles

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    NP inherited a bl**dy awful situation and has done fantastically well in steadying the ship, and both bringing in some very talented young footballers and nurturing them to become a decent Championship team. The team will get even better over time, and I have no doubt we will attract some decent bids for some of our players in the future. However the plaudits for me rest primarilly with the Allams, what they have contributed is beyond being sensible in the short term, and only the next 2-3 years at least will determine whether they will ever get a return on their 'investment'. So when i read (rightly or wrongly) that NP is upset at losing his PA, and his backroom team losing mobiles; hello come into the real world that is Hull City today!
    NP has created a great foundation stone, its now for someone else to build upon that, and I for one will not be too upset at him going, he's done a good solid job but i can't ever recollect leaving so many matches after being bored to death by the tactics, i want to be entertained (if just a little, and more consistently) is that too much to ask? My only hope now is that AP actually makes a good appointment something he's not handled too well in that past in the majority of instances. If he gets it right then the playoffs are definitely a possibility.
     
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    The 1st half of our last game was the best I've seen us play for a very long time
     
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  8. Robbierocket

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    Trying to find positives, and all I can think of is that the club may offer money in January for new signings to attract a decent new manager. Hopefully if we can keep hold of our defence we can sort out the rest of the squad.
     
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  9. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    one million quid for all 3 has been reported.
     
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  10. cheshireles

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    I agree, long may it continue. Goals conceded apart the second half wasn't too bad either. Generally though over the last 15-16 months NP has delivered up some dross.
     
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  11. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    It will be intersting to see, whoever AP brings in, whether a change will improve the goal scoring situation wiht the current players. It does point heavily against NP, that his coaching and tactics did not lend its self to goals scored. This is very noticable with the goals scored from set pieces, which compared to other clubs was poor. This seems to have been a weak part of his coaching style.
     
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  12. Robo

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    Reality Check. We recently went bust!
    Did I miss it ??
     
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  13. St-Louis Tiger

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    I agree with what you say, though the timing of this article might attract a few numptys saying that you're only downplaying NP's role because he's leaving. NP played a massive part in the club's revival, but our improvement in form came literally as soon as the Allams took over (away at Preston). He's got the club to a respectable position and ok, it's a shame he's leaving, but we're not in dire straights and for the first time in my memory (i'm only 21) we're looking for a manager whilst we're actually an attractive club to manage (even after Taylor left we were still a bottom half NPC team).

    In fact that could be the reason AP has sometimes made suspect managerial appointments, because none of the good ones wanted to come.
    This time round we're pushing for the play-offs, ran by rich owners that genuinely support the club without the pressure of immediate success and have a youthful team that are here to play football not to line their pockets.

    I think we'll do fine.
     
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  14. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    IMO....No.1 rubbish. could not disagree more on that. this squad with minor tweaks can get promotion this season.
    IMO....No.2 yes, correct. he has admitted he was aware of what lay ahead in past interviews
    IMO....No.3 NP, should have got a bonus for getting rid of Bullard on the cheap. Bullard only has 2 dodgy knees left.
    IMO....No.4 who knows, but if it was that bad why not walk away last summer ? not as if he needs the money or does he ?
    IMO....No.5 after LCFC last time Hull City must have been a blessing for NP.
    IMO....No.6 in a way yes. he has got the club to where it now much quicker than most of us thought possible.
    IMO....No,7 thats upto the owners to get sorted. but was it not AP that brought Mark Maguire to the club ?
    IMO....No.8 AP is Football and Mark Maguire a pen pushing accountant. AP MUST BE TOP DOG UNDER THE ALLAMS.
    IMO....No.9 its important Yes - but to say make or break is very over the top.

    Finally.

    Hull City DID NOT go bust thanks to the Allams. It was close but thats all.
     
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  15. Hull

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    Correct me if im wrong here. However, I assume Nigel was on 250k/300k a year at Hull.

    If reports are correct, he's been offered £1million a year plus £1million bonus if Leicester achieve promotion. Throw into the mix £8million to spend on players.

    You can say he's a horrible so and so and call him disloyal but the offer on the table is out of this league. I mean Trappatoni is only on £1.5m a year to manage Ireland, Benitez was on £2.5m at LIVERPOOL! Pardew is currently on £500k at Newcastle!

    Put things into perspective, if you were on £25k a year and someone offered you a job in which you were doing exactly the same thing, had better resources and a much greater talent pool to recruit from and work with while being paid £100k a year with the likely potential to bring in £200k. You'd take it in a heartbeat.

    At the end of the day, football managerial positions are extremely vicious and fickle. If you look at the managers currently in the championship, only Sam Allardyce, Adkins and Holloway have been in it a long time. Even then the latter were earning peanuts for a long period of time. It's a no-brainer for Nigel in my opinion, the shelf life for managers is so short that this job will set up his family for life. You cannot fault a man for being offered a crazy wage.

    My only concern for him is that if he does achieve promotion, the expectancy of Leicester fans will be very high if they have a relegation scrap. I also feel his non-media personality won't do him many favours with the likes of Sky. Love him or hate him, Phil Brown was very popular with the media.

    Onwards and upwards for Hull, there are so many talented managers out there who would love to take over a club outside the playoff places. We've got a good fanbase, great owners and a young, talented squad who just need guiding in the right direction.

    It's not the same situation as Dowie when we were up ****s creek without a paddle!!
     
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    :huh:
     
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  17. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    imo, nigel pearson will be up the she ite creek without a paddle regardless of how he does @ leicester this season. his consolation is that he gets a good pay off. for sure IF the foxes do manage to go up he will be sacked with a nice promotion bonus to swell his severance package. the Thai owners will want a bigger name who is media friendly and proven in the PL.
     
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  18. Hull

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    Sorry. What I ment by that is that within a few weeks a manager can be the best thing since sliced bread to the worst manager in a clubs history.

    You don't get any level of security in football management as success is expected by fans.
     
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    "Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned".

    For "woman" read "Football fan" ...............the world over
     
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  20. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Hull City have never been in such a better state to get promoted to the PL as they are in now. We must look a very attractive proposition to many. The future is very much Black and Amber NOT sonic gold. UTT
     
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