1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Nathan Jones sacked as Saints er....."manager"

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Jan 4, 2023.

  1. lewebster

    lewebster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    976
    Likes Received:
    1,287
    The same Oršić that has looked way off the pace?
     
    #1741
    StJabbo1 likes this.
  2. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    14,250
    Likes Received:
    23,717
    Problem is we don’t know the truth. If we all liked Jones and we were winning games - and Orsic posted that - then Orsic would be the prick.
     
    #1742
  3. Deserana

    Deserana Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2014
    Messages:
    521
    Likes Received:
    661
    The issue is that NJ, outside of that one positive week, has not made a single change on the pitch performance wise. The same issues present under Ralph are still there. I genuinely believe the fan reception would actually be okay or at least we’d all be a bit more understandable if since the Everton win there was a clear progression of system or style. But there hasn’t been.
    Hell, even the one game we did win since Everton, we squeaked by against a 23rd Championship side with a one goal margin. The hard truth is that there is zero progression on the pitch, not even a faint one where you can say “well the results aren’t there but you can see a clear style of play coming in”. The guy is still bringing on ****ing Walcott when we’re a goal down. In the words of a player I would very much love to have at our disposal right now “it’s a joke”.
     
    #1743
  4. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    10,805
    Likes Received:
    12,805
    I'm taking that as a tongue in cheeks remark.
     
    #1744
  5. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,837
    Likes Received:
    13,160
    Disagree. It's pretty well-known around here that I loathe Jose Mourinho. I loathed Mourinho even when he won things. I can't stand managers who spend all of their time telling people how good they are. If you were that good, you wouldn't need to tell people.

    Jones combines Jose Mourinho's petulance and insecure ego-projection with the managerial skills of Manuel Pellegrino. It's not a good combination!
     
    #1745
  6. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    42,991
    Likes Received:
    48,897
  7. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,837
    Likes Received:
    13,160
    That reads so much like another former Luton manager...Joe Kinnear*. I didn't really make the connection between them until now. It's not a good connection.



    *Joe Kinnear in his managerial days. I have a fair bit more sympathy for Kinnear as Newcastle's DoF given that he was diagnosed with dementia not long after.
     
    #1747
  8. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    Messages:
    20,886
    Likes Received:
    31,943
    #1748
    Le Tissier's Laces likes this.
  9. garysfc

    garysfc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    5,736
    Likes Received:
    3,798
    #1749
  10. Gastonomy

    Gastonomy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    91
    The situation for Leeds this week shows the real reason why Jones is still manager. Leeds are now casting around for a manager and it looks like they are down to their 3rd or 4th choices - or are going to make a snap decision on someone they only really considered this week.
     
    #1750
    Lemons and Oranges likes this.

  11. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,837
    Likes Received:
    13,160
    If they get down to their 9th or 10th choice, they might even end up with someone of Jones' calibre!

    (Seriously, let Selles manage if there isn't a readily-available option)
     
    #1751
  12. Gastonomy

    Gastonomy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    91
    A month ago, when this was clear, we might have got Sean Dyche. Now we will end up with Pulis, Bruce or Fat Sam!
     
    #1752
  13. West Kent Saint

    West Kent Saint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    6,335
    Likes Received:
    3,445
    #1753
    garysfc and Le Tissier's Laces like this.
  14. Lemons and Oranges

    Lemons and Oranges Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2014
    Messages:
    5,189
    Likes Received:
    7,943
    As with all such things, the fanbase (us) only get to see/hear about the publicly available situation: Saints are performing badly, our latest manager has not visibly improved things, and is (currently) unapologetic about his performance. It is entirely possible that, akin to an iceberg, the true situation is far larger/more complicated than we can see, and the board are working very hard to recruit a different person, but will not go public with anything (sacking Jones/announcing a new appointment) until the ink is dry on the new contract.

    In an alternative universe, the board are all running around like headless chickens, and Saints are screwed. I suspect that the truth is somewhere between the two scenarios.
     
    #1754
  15. Lemons and Oranges

    Lemons and Oranges Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2014
    Messages:
    5,189
    Likes Received:
    7,943
    This probably true, but why haven't the Leeds board immediately brought in Pulis, Bruce or Fat Sam? Either their board is casting their net wider (so will our board be doing the same), or Pulis, Bruce and Fat Sam have all turned Leeds down, as they are waiting for a call from Semmens.
     
    #1755
  16. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    9,522
    Likes Received:
    5,485
    I would take Pulis in a heartbeat right now. Bring on Sally Sue’s long throws!
     
    #1756
  17. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2014
    Messages:
    4,412
    Likes Received:
    5,204
    when I said it was all my fault and I accept sole responsibility I meant to mean it but it’s important to understand that it’s only my fault because other people keep messing it up and Lavia had a bad game. So, yeah, Sorry for the misunderstandings.
     
    #1757
  18. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2014
    Messages:
    4,412
    Likes Received:
    5,204
    ****sakes we are supposed to have reached acceptance, why are you still in denial?
     
    #1758
  19. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2014
    Messages:
    4,412
    Likes Received:
    5,204
    only if NJ hadn’t been banging on about the need for experience and attacking threat in the days before we signed an attacking, experienced player. Even if we liked Jones -hah! - there’s a disconnect there.
     
    #1759
  20. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    56,705
    Likes Received:
    63,464

    I assume this is sarcasm? Pulis ffs?
     
    #1760
    It'sOnlyAGame likes this.

Share This Page