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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

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    I have absolutely no idea in reality but if all evidence including audio recordings was tied to her and she’s withdrawn her statement does it render it all legally inadmissible?

    Speculation anyway, we will probably find out a bit more in due course as this will have mega tonnes of media scrutiny.
     
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  2. Osvaldorama

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    I have never hoped for a career ending injury before.
    But if Greenwood plays again for United then I hope someone does him in.
     
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  3. The Ides of March

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    Masón Greenwood strikes me as a very immature person, regardless whether this was him or not.on the tape. Having said this, I hope someone in the United hierarchy is going to edúcate him regarding his social and emotional behaviour.
     
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  4. Libby

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    Hate to say it but his girlfriend is a disgrace. Finally had the bottle to come forward and then suddenly changed her mind, why?

    Now he's free to do it to others.

    Edit - disgrace probably a bit strong on reflection and I can understand not wanting your life to be torn apart on the stand but it's not right to let him get away with it.
     
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  5. SAINTOSPREY

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    I know nothing about the case itself, but from the remarks on here and Social Media he is now in a situation that he is Guilty by inference until such time there is proof of innocence, no case, means no chance of any explanation or mitigating circumstances. Wouldn't be the first person to have been stitched up, but ideally if guilty he should say so. How would you feel if you were on the receiving end in a situation like this? Jury is out...
     
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  6. Saintmagic

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    Someone told me the other day that she is back with Greenwood now, no idea how true that is

    Remember her dads statement at the time being pretty ****ed up. Seemed like he was angry it had got out as it had meant that they couldn’t have Greenwood in the family making loads of money, rather than concern over his daughters welfare
     
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  7. Libby

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    I've always withheld judgement on these sorts of cases but they don't normally have the above in public domain. So not by 'inference' at all, it's plain as ****ing day.

    No possible circumstances can mitigate against that. May be innocent in eyes of law but clearly an absolute scumbag.
     
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  8. Libby

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    Yeah I remember that with her Dad too. Absolutely bizarre to say the least. He's a scumbag too.

    The tragic thing is if you're a woman being sexually assaulted by a top footballer you're far less likely to report it now than you were prior to this.
     
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  9. SAINTOSPREY

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    Very worrying evidence if true. As I said if guilty he should say so, I have no proof that this was actually him, I leave that to the experts. I always regret never being given the opportunity to sit on a Jury, I will never know how I would have reacted.
     
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  10. Libby

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    This didn't even reach that stage mate as she withdrew the complaint.

    I'm the opposite re jury service though and never want to do it and will get my way out of it if ever called up.
     
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  11. Saintmagic

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    It’s a very tricky one as whilst I’m sure there are some cases where the footballer is the guilty party, there will be more where they have been targeted because of their wealth/fame

    Remember a story a while ago involving Cleverly I think. A woman sold her story to a paper saying she has shagged him and at the time he was with some actress so the paper bought it. Cleverly and his mrs asked about it and turned out he was with her or something at the time so definitely wasn’t him and was just a bloke in a club who looked a bit like him who used to say he was him to pull
     
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  12. SAINTOSPREY

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    Yet you feel OK to find someone Guilty on Social media without access to the full story? That's not how British Justice works.
     
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  13. tomw24

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    He's not even innocent in the eyes of the law as he hasn't been tried. There's just insufficient evidence to proceed.
     
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  14. Libby

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    Not in cases where there isn't clear evidence in the public domain as I stated earlier. This quite clearly doesn't fall into that category though. I don't need the full story when "I don't want to have sex" gets the response of "I don't give a ****"

    I'd wager you'd have a different attitude if that were your daughter in that clip.

    Edit- probably best to agree to disagree as this is something very close to my heart and l don't want to fall out over it.
     
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  15. Libby

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    Well he is. He's not currently accused of or under investigation for any crime. Therefore he's innocent.
     
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  16. tomw24

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    Yeah good point. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Hope Man Utd have the balls to sack him publicly.
     
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  17. Libby

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    They'd presumably have to pay up the remainder of his contract to do so?

    Be interesting to see the fan reaction if they don't.
     
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  18. tomw24

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    It depends. I think they can sell gross misconduct TBH.
     
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  19. Libby

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    I'm sure their lawyers are very busy as we speak!
     
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  20. SAINTOSPREY

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    Absolutely, I would be incadescent, it is pure evil, but there is much more to this case than I will ever know, and now he will have to live with it for the rest of his life whether he is Guilty or not, and that is the point I am making, it is a big IF. The fact that there is no prosecution hurts him more, as there is no chance to prove his innocence nor is there any justice if he is guilty.
     
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