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  1. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member
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    A rumour! This guy would be a class signing.

     
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  2. Saintmagic

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    Another winger rumour!
     
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  3. Puck

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    Yes but that stat isn't just about % of shots saved. It's comparing goals against xG. If we allow loads of shots from 8-12 yards that will be reflected in the xG figure.
     
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  4. tomw24

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    TBH I'm very skeptical about xG stats.
     
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    I have to be honest - I’m not sure what you’re watching. He flaps, gives the ball away, isn’t very commanding.

    He’s worse than McCarthy and Forster from last season.

    He is a huge problem for us. He’s just not ready.
     
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  6. Puck

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    Yeah that's fair enough, I'm not sure how accurate they are myself. I wouldn't suggest they're definitive but to some extent they will take into account how "good" the chances created by the opposition are.
     
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  7. Archers Road

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    For me he’s a definite upgrade on both McCarthy and Forster, and unlike either of them he can be expected to improve (if we don’t knock the stuffing out of him)
     
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  8. tomw24

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    I don't think he is a huge problem. At the start of the season he was commanding, claiming crosses. It's a confidence thing more than ability. I think if McCarthy was fit he would have come in for a bit and take him out of the firing line. But he's not, and I don't want a 41 year old in goal and obviously neither does Jones.
     
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  9. Saintmagic

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    I wonder if Bournemouth are signing Jackson if we will now go for Semenyo from Bristol City, they supposedly were ahead of us for him
     
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    Hmmm....another 5ft 8" striker. Jones seems to want to get in some monsters in the Chris Wood mould (or other ****-Haalands).
     
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  11. Mostlymadeofwater

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    xG stats are human generated and entirely subjective. Not a metric to use to judge anyone or anything.
     
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  12. StJabbo1

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    Stats are for twats.
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

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    And football club owners
     
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  14. Osvaldorama

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    I agree stats are **** but just using the evidence of my own eyes and general feeling.

    If we had swapped just the goalkeepers around for last nights game, our defence would be a lot more assured IMO. Knowing they could trust the guy behind them.
     
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  15. Mostlymadeofwater

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    I don't think stats are useless, far from it. I make a good portion of my living these days in sports analytics and in several sports the engines that I have worked on can make very good predictions. Football isn't a nut that has been cracked yet properly and just from working with various companies I have found that football stats are at best poor.
     
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  16. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I'd also argue Gavin would be more assured knowing he could trust those in front of him!
     
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  17. Osvaldorama

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    Haha. True. Obviously it could be a case of six of one, half a dozen of the other.

    And I do think he has potential. I think he’s better than Gunn for example. But it was sheer arrogance and stupidity throwing such a young keeper in to a relegation dog fight.

    And I believe it could make a huge difference in our survival chances to get a more experienced and talented head in there. Last thing we need is an apprentice learning on the job as we throw away our premier league spot.

    It’s genuinely insane
     
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    I don't think it was insane at the beginning of the season as we had so much promise. Now we are in it, I agree we need an older (but not 41) and experienced head to bring some confidence and calm to the backline. To be fair I do get why Yanny B has been recalled as he is an older, more experienced head.
     
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    I totally agree that a combination of six goalkeepers and half a dozen defenders would help enormously. Not sure if it would be allowed though…
     
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  20. SaintsFan86

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    I wouldn't be against Victor Gyokeres coming in from Coventry. I think he looks a handful, Agile with a decent bit of ability for a tall striker.
     
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