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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. brisbane-lion

    brisbane-lion Well-Known Member

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    She isn't................is she? 'cause if that's living I am doing something wrong.
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

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    something else that has to stop

     
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  3. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    let's be honest here, Albanians, Iraqis, Iranians, Somalians and all the rest in between, if you're a burglar and you see a house with cctv, security lighting,top notch locks and maybe a nice big alsatian you will more than likely move onto a less secure abode even one who has not locked the doors and just a try of the handle will find it an invitation to enter........we are that open house <steam>
     
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  5. Poly

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    Sadly she is....but she's very ill.
     
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  6. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    whos been a naughty boy then, being caught with your hand in the cookie jar 5 times now
     
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  7. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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  8. brisbane-lion

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    But she thinks she is beautiful. Have you ever tried to tell anyone that they're drunk?
     
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    There you go all it needed was to ask them to stay where they are <whistle>.......now call me cynical but there is not a meeooow's chance in hell of any of the uninvited guests taking any notice of that plea ;)
     
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    There is murder going on over here. Protesters outside refugee/asylum seekers accommodation, fighting among themselves, how the **** are we allowing single young men to arrive here is beyond me. Yes we are a soft touch, we should be adopting Poland's policy.<ok>
     
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  13. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    just wait till their religion is the dominant one, and more that half of MPs are of the religion of peace. just to combat the crime level it will be Sharia, arms legs eyes tagers our hospitals will be world leaders in transplant surgeries
     
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  14. Poly

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    Whoops, even former VP (who actually admits that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election), has been causgt with classified documents now.
    But it was probably just an oversight, so like Joe Biden, they'll be no legal consequences.

    Unlike Trump who stole hundreds of classified documents and LIED about having them:

     
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  15. blonogasoven

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    "Lied"?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/fact-check-trump-claims-fbi-search/index.html

    Even CNN don't go that far. They say that Christina Bobb signed saying that there were no more docs.

    If you stepped out from behind your hatred of Trump for a minute and considered the whole picture you might get a bit of perspective.

    Loathe him or not Trump is at the head of a huge organisation. Things are done for him. He doesn't walk the dog, do the dishes, file his tax return or anything so mundane that he can get someone to do it, just like Joe Biden would.
    The nitpicking about the documents is utterly ridiculous points scoring on both sides. Trump has people to do this stuff but, of course, just like Biden, he's going to get **** if they fk up. Which they obviously have.

    My only issue with the Biden documents saga is that it was hidden in case iit affected the mid terms.

    But of course I don't live in the States like you do so what the fk do I know.
     
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    another bad batch of trill ;)
     
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  17. blonogasoven

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    I have read that Putin has been very angry that the West have broken their promises (in 1990) not to expand NATO to the East.
    It is very difficult to get a definitive answer because the waters are muddied. There is a narrative that seems to prevail saying that no such promises were ever made and Putin is making it up.
    He's been making it up for many years but, rather than take heed, NATO has targetted expansion in Russia's backyard.
    I did find alternate opinions that actually make more sense

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ief-in-nato-betrayal-and-why-it-matters-today

    I do think the USA are bullies and can't stand that there is a country that is willing to stand up to them. I think, as the Ukranian Defence Minister does, that it is a proxy war that Ukraine is fighting for NATO where the big weapons manufacturers can test their weapons on a proper battlefield without spilling American blood.

    The Yanks could drag the world into WW3.
     
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  18. Poly

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    And that lawyer was speaking on Trump's behalf
    She was his representative
    QED: Trump lied

    "Two former White House officials, who had been designated as among Mr. Trump’s representatives with the archives, received calls and tried to facilitate the documents’ return.
    Mr. Trump resisted those calls, describing the boxes of documents as “mine,” according to three advisers familiar with his comments.
    "

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/22/us/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-documents.html

    Or perhaps if you kept current with the news ?



    Trump under Federal investigation for "deliberately hoarding" classified documents even after the national archives told him to return them
    Even after being served with a subpoena to return them, he refused, claiming, through an attorney, that he had none.
    Counter 1:25

    "Trump Defied Subpoena, Lied About Having Classified Documents, Justice Department Says"
    https://www.thewrap.com/trump-defie...ified-documents-doj-says-in-new-court-filing/



    Trump is the head of The Trump Organization - what is your criteria for "Huge" ?


    Nope, and that's utter cr@p
    Lawyers don't make formal legal statements (that they can be held accountable to) without discussing it with their client; and for such a black & white statement, there could be no ambiguity in the lawyer's mind
    Ditto accountants filing rich people's taxes. They don't just make the tax returns up. They're based on detailed information based on what their clients tell them. Because if a lawyer files a fraudulent statement or an accountant submits fraudulent tax returns, guess what: they are criminally liable.

    You come across as someone both young and naïve. The notion that Trump had hundreds of classified documents at his home in Mar Largo, due to a careless staffer, is at best ludicrous.


    BS
    In Trump's case it was literally hundreds of classified documents that Trump took from the White House after instructing his staffers what to take to Florida
    He'd apparently gone through the boxes of documents himself:

    "...the 15 boxes Mr. Trump turned over to the archives in January, nearly a year after he left office, included documents from the C.I.A., the National Security Agency and the F.B.I. spanning a variety of topics of national security interest, a person briefed on the matter said.
    Mr. Trump went through the boxes himself in late 2021, according to multiple people briefed on his efforts, before turning them over
    .

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/22/us/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-documents.html


    "Trump was warned in late 2021 by his former White House lawyer that it was unlawful to retain the documents, especially classified information;
    • Trump personally sorted through the documents in late 2021;
    • Trump’s personal knowledge and possession, access, and control of the documents is indicated by the quantity, content, and location of documents with classified markings (including intermingled with personal belongings) and by his admissions on Truth Social;
    • Trump repeatedly stated privately that the documents were his to possess and he was not willing to deliver them to the government;
    • Trump aides repeatedly tried to get him to return the documents to the government;
    • Trump was repeatedly put on notice by Archives and Justice Department that his retention of the documents was unlawful and a potential threat to national security;
    • Trump was apparently involved in obstructive acts of trying to conceal documents from the government after receiving a subpoena. "
    https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/...nvolvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/


    Why is that an "issue" for you ?
    Had it come to light before the mid-terms, the FBI could have been accused of trying to influence the election

    Do you not recall the damaging Twitter leaks about Hilary Clinton just before the 2016 presidential election ?


    No, and it shows with your brazen assertions, despite only having a limited knowledge of US politics.
     
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  19. esteponawhite

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    The most worrying part is that these world leaders are so ****ing stupid having these documents found on their property, do they not have a shredder a fire or a toilet to flush them down.
    A bit like footballers getting done for drunk driving, the thick twat can afford a taxi.
     
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  20. Poly

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    It was probably staffers who put them away with unclassified documents by mistake, Biden and Pence that is.
     
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