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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    that's the team, you can't start picking and choosing if your own criteria don't suit.

    I could for example pick a lot of January sides, the one form 2 years ago who couldn't score. the one that lost to Southampton in league Cup semi and couldn't win....

    the team isn't that bloody bad lol.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    onana agent has decided his rat needs to get off the sinking ship.

    rumours have started chelsea want to beat arsenal to his signing.

    as if.
     
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  3. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Mignolet < Alisson
    Clyne < Trent
    Toure < Konate
    Sahko = Gomez
    Moreno < Robertson
    Henderson
    > Keita
    Lucas = Bajcetic
    Can < Thiago
    Milner < Salah
    Firmino
    > Nunez
    Ibe < Gakpo

    I make that one for 15/16, two draws and eight for now.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    probably fiar. Maybe a little kind to the young lad bajcetic.

    I mean can was alright but he was all over the place in terms of consistency. Lucas was a spent force by then, Clyne was on the blow, mingolet couldn't kick, pass or catch but was a good shot stopper.

    I mean that was basically the Bournemouth team plus subs.

    LFC today have massive injury list
     
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  5. Garlic Klopp

    Garlic Klopp Well-Known Member

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    Not a bad player, in a very poor team
     
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  6. Milk..

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    That's literally what the manager does every game. <laugh>
    You did for your 15/16 team, one with Ibe in which would not have been the norm.

    2015/16 Klopp had this to pick from (although pretty sure Coutinho was sold by January).

    2 Nathaniel Clyne
    3 Jose Enrique
    4 Kolo Toure
    6 Dejan Lovren
    7 James Milner
    9 Christian Benteke
    10 Philippe Coutinho
    11 Roberto Firmino
    12 Joe Gomez
    14 Jordan Henderson
    15 Daniel Sturridge
    17 Mamadou Sakho
    18 Alberto Moreno
    19 Steven Caulker
    20 Adam Lallana
    21 Lucas
    22 Simon Mignolet
    23 Emre Can
    24 Joe Allen
    26 Tiago Ilori
    27 Divock Origi
    28 Danny Ings
    29 Arjen Robben
    32 Cameron Brannagan
    33 Jordon Ibe
    34 Adam Bogdan
    35 Kevin Stewart
    36 Samed Yesil
    37 Martin Skrtel
    38 Jon Flanagan
    39 Ryan Fulton
    40 Ryan Kent
    41 Jack Dunn
    43 Ryan McLaughlin
    45 Mario Balotelli
    46 Jordan Rossiter
    47 Andre Wisdom
    48 Jerome Sinclair
    49 Jordan Williams
    50 Lazar Markovic
    51 Lloyd Jones
    52 Danny Ward
    53 Joao Carlos Teixeira
    54 Sheyi Ojo
    56 Connor Randall
    57 Joe Maguire
    58 Daniel Cleary
    64 Sergi Canos
    68 Pedro Chirivella



    On paper and in good form. Absolutely, we beat that team 19 times out of 20. But my point though is, on current form and morale, not so much.

    Also Studge spent most of the season (most of his career) injured, so be fair to say he's a big name Klopp16 wouldn't have at his disposal when picking a team to face Klopp23.
     
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  7. saintanton

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    Robben's just got off the boat, he'll be here soon.
     
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  8. Gerrardsitchyear

    Gerrardsitchyear Well-Known Member

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    Lallana was a fine player when fit. Great at pressing (one of our best), good control in tight spaces and could play a through ball. He just got injured too much.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I picked game in the closest day to the current day of month from jan 2016. no agenda.

    If we are then going to play oh well sturridge would have game then i can raise you diaz and jota.

    If its an utterly unconstrained pick from the 25 man squad each iteration of klopp has at their disposal.... well then klopp 2022 wins hands down 99/100


    Alisson
    trent Konate VVD Robertson (no question)
    pick 2 of the midfielders.
    Jota Salah Diaz
    Nunez

    Just one example. the midfield is poor we all know it but theres 9 to pick fomr to cobble up two sitting cms there.

    Like....

    At best
    Mingolet
    Clyne Toure Lovren Moreno (like hellloooo)
    Henderson Lucas
    Lallana Firmino coutinho (alland didn't move to rCm until maes came in that summer)
    Sturrdige

    Or if you like stick in a 433 and change it to more what klopp would actually do/did

    this side finished 8th and crawled through to europa final and lost.


    It was signings that made it better. MANE.


    the answer then is it will be SIGNINGS that will make 2023/24 team better as well.
     
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  10. Milk..

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    I fully expect so. As I stated at the very beginning, this is not a dig at Klopp, I have full faith in him... But despite on paper having a strong squad, I think morale and form we're the weakest we've been under him.

    My point for all this is our 15/16 middleweights. (One of the weakest squads on paper we've had over the years) would have beaten the current squad based on form/spirit... Not that they are better players. It would be absolute folly to say that squad could hold a candle to our current squad...despite reaching two cup finals that year.

    We've been beaten by teams a lot worse than our 15/16 squad and sit lower in the table, but it's not because we have worse players... We're just in ludicrously bad form this season.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think morale 2 years ago and form btw was worse.

    Once they got thaigo fit and Nat Phillips playing they won enough to get 4th.

    this is slightly different as the full forward line is in disarray as well.

    Once we get some reliable goal scoring going imo we will improve.
     
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  12. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Against a prime Lucas, Bajcetic stand no chance. As you say, Lucas was didn't by then and maybe in time Bajcetic will become better than a prime Lucas (hopefully)
     
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  13. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Well, despite the hurdles, I've overcome the challenge; car purchased and driven home this morning. Didn't need extra finance either <diva>

    Not driving it yet though, still got the courtesy car until 5pm tomorrow, sod putting wear and tear on my car <laugh>
     
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  14. Milk..

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    I think you need a road trip to John O Groats and back before tomorrow.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    lucas 2011, absolute prime prior to acl v Chelsea

    he really had put everything into his game and was supremely fit at that time. it was all about fitness


    this bajcetic kid has the brain of a 28 year old. Really impressive but he's more like a 16.year old in terms of power.

    he's tall, rangey, has eye for passes and spatial awareness.

    add physique of age and training to this and he will be quite a good player.

    but attitude like lucas (or Henderson) is hard to find and icing on top.

    my personal favourite was never Gerrard. it was alonso as he had the attitude and the skills.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    fastest car in the world mate.

    I suggest driving it only in 2nd gear all day tomorrow

    see how fast it'll go till the clutch slips.
     
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  17. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    That's what my 15 year old keeps doing in my car when I'm teaching her. :(
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    You mean they have manual cars in America? Thought everyone drove stick
     
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  19. saintanton

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    Stick is manual.
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    <doh> so it is.
     
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