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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

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    Gareth Bale retired from football at 33. How much money DID he make?
     
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    Whatever it is he's worth it. One of my favourites in modern times...
     
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  3. paultheplug

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    Does it matter?. He entertained us.
     
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  4. bigsmithy9

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    I'm intrigued. I remember when footballers were paid 12 pounds a week and 10 off season. 2 pounds for a win and a quid for a draw........and travelled to the game on the trolleybus.
     
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  5. The Changing Man

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    I think Gareth got a bit more than that !!
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    It isn't actually clearly the wrong decision. If you stop it one frame before the one with the lines drawn the corner taker is offside.
     
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  7. The Changing Man

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    Smithy his Net worth is reported to be approx $145m
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    I disagree. It's about 4 or 5 frames until it's even close, in my opinion.
    The main issue isn't even the offside, though. It's about who gave it.
    Certainly wasn't the linesman and the ref's not even looking at the "offside" player.
     
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    This screenshot is on the first header.
    Screenshot_20230110-163207_Twitter.jpg The corner taker is clearly offside. The Assistant is right not to flag at this point because of VAR. He can let the ref know through his earpiece. When the goal is scored he might even ask the ref if the first header was a Wolves player. On confirmation he puts his flag up.
    Nothing has been done wrong and if VAR had that angle the goal would be disallowed.
     
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    The first header is irrelevant, as the corner taker isn't interfering with play.
     
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    He is once he touches the ball in the same phase of play. I don't think an additional touch by a teammate creates a new phase but the Laws are not clear.
     
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    Is the first header by a Wolves player?
     
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    I think so.
     
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    It's a different phase of play as the player hasn't committed an offside offence in the last one.
     
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  15. PowerSpurs

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    I would agree with you if it wasn't for this asterisk note in the Laws.
    *the first point of contact of the ‘play’ or ‘touch’ of the ball should be used.
     
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    The solution to this is to change the Law so a player running away from the goal is never offside.
     
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    That would just lead to players standing well offside, then making very short moves away from the goal.
     
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  18. PowerSpurs

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    Good point. But if they first play the ball behind the point at which it was last played by a teammate then they clearly have not gained any advantage by being offside.
     
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    First header i believe it's a pool player heading it out
     
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    I made a similar point after Brighton's disallowed goal against Arsenal, when Mitoma's offside position actually led to him being at a disadvantage relative to the defender who was closer to the ball but asleep and let it bounce, so the attacker happened to get to it first.

    It isn't quite as simple as a blanket rule for all players moving away from goal, but it certainly isn't complicated although basic geometry is probably totally foreign to the PGMOL: If at the moment of play the attacker is moving away from goal and is also further from the ball as a result of starting from an offside position, he clearly hasn't gained an advantage in any way and should therefore be onside, instead of being penalised for superior awareness and athleticism.

    I think that's simple enough and covers most if not all scenarios.
     
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