Leeds Utd v West Ham Utd Match Thread

So what are they

 

I’ve no idea but isn’t a vaccine supposed to prevent you from getting the disease / infection you’re being vaccinated against?

 

As I understand it a vaccine is given to stimulate the body into making antibodies against a particular virus thus helping the body to cope with the effects of the virus but does not stop you from catching a particular virus

 

Well when my kid got the MMR it was on the basis that they wouldn’t contract measles, mumps or rubella, not that they would have less spots, smaller bumps (admittedly I don’t know what the effects of rubella is).

 

Flu vaccines are manufactured the year before they are used, so in effect they are a guesstimate of what the medics think will be the most virulent strain of flu next year. So never an accurate barrier. A few years ago it was pretty useless that particular year and it seems this year may be the same simply because we locked down for so long so peoples immunity has been compromised. I say this as someone who gets the flu jab every year and has had 5 covid jabs so far

 

Anyway, I apologise for taking the match day thread off piste. Hoping you all feel better soon.

 

Isn’t that a bit like taking a paracetamol in case you get a headache

 

Totally different scenario.

 

West Ham were poor last night, as they have been most of the season, except in the Europa league, where theyre 4 wins from 4. Perhaps we should stop looking at these lesser leagues for players, they may shine there but are those leagues any better than the championship?

 

I have been fully vaccinated many a time.

 

We can’t afford to buy anywhere else. We’re a pl club on a slightly better than championship budget. Even brentford with their 17k attendance can outbid us

 

Nasal spray eh? I will look that one up.

 

Plus prices for players in the uk leagues are just so over priced.

 

Women take the birth control pill.. Just in case.

 

And that’s the same scenario in reference to your earlier post

 

Not always. Some jabs wear off over time. Just like defences against other things do.

In real life, if you get chicken pox or measles then you shouldn't ever get them again. However things like malaria or flu can be caught numerous times. It's about how the immune system remembers them. If virus don't change then you shouldn't get them again. If they constantly mutate then you might be able to catch the different types just like flu.

I had my malaria jab in 2001 when I went to Africa for a bit. If I went again now I'd need it again as the effects will probably have weakened.

 

Do a search for "Budesonide Covid" tons of information and medical sheets showing positive reports

I vaguely remember hearing on the news the armed forces were using a nasal spray to protect troops, not sure which one it was though

 

So if they mutate how does a vaccine work against that anymore than your natural immunity would if it’s designed to strengthen natural immunity?

 

I’m not medical far from it but I would suggest that a mutated virus would contain traces of the original which hopefully you would have gained some kind of immunity if you had been jabbed
Just for the record I’ve had 5 covid + flu because I can’t afford to take any chances like many others

 

because the vaccines (Historically, I don't want to delve in to covid vaccines as it could go on for days) usually use a version of the same or similar virus (sometimes dead virus as influenza jabs are) that is harmless. Your natural immune system fights off the harmless or dead virus and remembers how to do it. If you are then exposed to the real virus the body has already learnt to fight it and you don't get as ill as you would if you just caught it "in the wild" so to speak. The vaccine triggers your immune system to act, that's all it is.

Vaccines are basically a sparring session in case you ever get in to a boxing match.