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IT NEEDS TO STOP

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by DuaneDarby18, Dec 26, 2022.

  1. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

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    Surely depends who you have up front. If you have a genuine target man who can control the long ball forward and hold it up, win free-kicks etc, then the chances of retaining possession must be higher. We don't have that sort of Centre-forward at the moment, so need to vary the way in which we play.
     
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  2. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

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    I think the theory behind it is good, however we don’t have the players to play it quick enough. Ingram clearly can’t do it, the back line can’t do it quick enough and there’s only seri who continually comes short for it.
    I’m assuming the idea is to invite the press, pass into midfield which now has space and play from there. All that actually happens is seri recieves the ball facing his own goal. His only option is to play the way we are facing which is backwards. I think he should recieve the ball on the half turn then he’s got a chance of going forward. Also woods should sometimes go short rather than seri, currently if a team put a player on seri then the lads at the back have no option. That’s when it gets passed sided to side and we get caught
     
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  3. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    At last at last ... someone who gets it ....,
     
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  4. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    Interesting

     
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  5. StCloudTiger

    StCloudTiger Well-Known Member

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    Maybe maybe not, we are 8 points off a playoff spot and that is not out of reach.
     
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  6. AcunsBurnerAccount™

    AcunsBurnerAccount™ Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Im looking up the table not down.
     
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  7. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Of course I hope guys are right, but...
     
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  8. Evington

    Evington Well-Known Member

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    Bit of panicking on here?
     
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    Blaknamberblood Well-Known Member

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    OK not gonna lie, I haven't trawled through all the comments, but this fancying around at the back mallarky is the 'in' thing, England do it, top level clubs do it, and without exception they ALL fk up now and again, this is your supposed top level pros. It's a risk- reward system, which is supposed to drag teams out of position to then create space. I have to be honest here, the moment I saw Allison at Liverpool fk it up the other season I thought it was a crazy system and haven't changed my mind !
     
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  11. AcunsBurnerAccount™

    AcunsBurnerAccount™ Well-Known Member

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    Its bizarre that the common view seems to be that only footballers who play for Man City or Barcelona have the quality to play out from the back.

    By that reckoning, Blackpool would have been favourites yesterday playing any of the bottom half premier league teams if their opposition had attempted to play out from the back.

    Nonsense. We had 70% possession yesterday and whilst we didn't create enough chances, i cant remember a game where we dominated possession so much.

    Under the previous manager we couldnt keep the ball for more than two passes
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    We had 54% possession under Shota against sheff u
    Got beat 2-0 but that doesn’t matter we won on possession
    Moral victory
     
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  13. springtiger

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    What is apparent is that City try to press one game usually away but don’t at home . The point is to press at least 4 players have to do it with the rest of the team backing up . If you don’t it’s a waste of energy . I like the passing out but sometimes I question the footballing intelligence of players , like fouling a player in their corner of the pitch when they are going nowhere and backs to goal .
    I think the team selection didn’t work Jones and Greaves together just seems a panic set up this year it re emerged the other day again . Without Hones I think we’d done ok , what do you think . I could be talking b******s as usual !.
     
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  14. BlackAndAmberGambler

    BlackAndAmberGambler Well-Known Member

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    Anyone think that a more vociferous captain would make a difference. Surely a second view of the situation and a call of go long would be useful. Unfortunately I don't think Greaves is the most vocal skipper we've ever had.
     
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    We don't have what I'd call an "on the pitch" skipper at the club though. Coyle is a fantastic club captain but we really struggle once on the pitch, we have absolutely nobody who puts pressure on the ref ( their keeper was taking the piss yesterday both in his hands and from goal kicks etc, but we had nobody pushing the ref at any point ), nobody who riles up either set of players, nobody who just all-round takes charge etc.

    I suppose the counter to that is do they still exist these days?
     
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  16. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    I know Greaves is 'only' standing in as captain, but there's no way on earth that he should be our on field captain. Nearly as mad as continuing with him as a LB when we have specialist LBs available. Maybe in a few years time he might be captain material but at this moment in time I don't see any sign whatsoever that he's captain material.
     
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  17. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    and then get blamed when it goes wrong
     
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  18. AcunsBurnerAccount™

    AcunsBurnerAccount™ Well-Known Member

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    This thread aged well…
     
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  19. Howdentiger2

    Howdentiger2 Well-Known Member

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    Is that 3 in 3 now for Oscar?
     
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  20. BlackAndAmberGambler

    BlackAndAmberGambler Well-Known Member

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    Yep
     
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