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  1. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Missed the very best.
    Boxing Day 1978 1st Division.
    City 5 Coventry 0.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    And City 5 Brighton & Hove Albion 2 some time around 1994
     
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  3. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    Nigel Pearson's win percentage
    We already knew it wasn't the best but the loss to the Potters on Saturday means his win percentage has now dipped below 30 per cent to 29.55 - of teams he’s managed for 20 or more matches, that’s the second lowest of his career.

    Holden was offered the role on a 12-month rolling contract where they started the following campaign on fire, winning their opening four consecutive matches. His managerial span in BS3 lasted 41 games in total before a sixth consecutive loss in all competitions encouraged the City owners to make the decision and look elsewhere.

    He left the club with a respectable win percentage of 43.9, with 18 victories during his tenure.

    (Bristol Post)
     
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    wings-of-a-crow Well-Known Member

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    that really does not make good reading, he really needs a good xmas and new year,
     
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  5. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Very important me thinks this next couple of weeks.If not we go back to the drawing board and start all over again.
     
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  6. realred1952

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    getting rid of some paper work /notes and had details of LJ v DH so have added NP to the list .. and it works out ..Pts per match :--
    DH ... 1 .44 top at 44%
    LJ .... 1.38 ... think thats about 39%
    NP ..... 1.10 ... 30%
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    I think we are screwed ... the " 5 pillars" bit was when LJ left had a manager in place for continuity , DH when he left we had continuity 2 coach's ... ooooops although they did amazingly well with a couple wins ... we broke the mould ! and it is still broken .....

    When you take an objective look at BCFC at the moment we are but a headless chicken in the last throes of avian flu!!!!

    less than 5 points over Christmas then he must go! ALONG with CF ........... SORRY but enough is enough 2 years to drop off our perch and so called rebuild ..isnt working we should at least be top 10 at this stage
     
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  7. AshtonRed

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    I’ve stuck by him all along, but I don’t disagree with you. We have to start winning points.
     
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  8. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    We are consistently inconsistent to the point where I fear for the future and if we are close to the drop zone at the end of January then I think we will be in deep messy stuff. Nigel Pearson has not brought with him the expected change of results and his ratings and statistics are what I would consider to be cause for dismissal. What is so wrong with Bristol City and it's business plan that offers very little, if any, hope for a better future and progression to a higher plain? Apathy and bad decisions are our downfall, and have been for as long as I can remember, and yet the usual annual point of concern has fallen upon us again at a time where we should be celebrating with smiles on our collective faces. I was seriously expecting after yet another home defeat by a team we should have handled that the plug would have been pulled on the reign of NP. Forethought should have been to do the deed during the World Cup break to enable the already secretly hired new man in charge to be up and running for the transfer window. The need for new blood or at least many transfusions is evident and I think NP's tactics and blatantly smug interviews have shown to me that he has totally lost the plot and being blunt I can't see that he ever had one. The players are not responding to whatever he is selling and much better is needed from all of them if we are to survive the drop, and this leads me to believe that the dressing room is not a happy place right now and requires urgent attention. Finding the next saviour will be difficult at best as we are lost in some kind of footballing wilderness without a clue where to turn next, and that doesn't auger well on any level. Looking for any single reason as to why we are constantly in this fog of uncertainty remains a mystery and only Lansdown can lift the curtain, otherwise we will be playing in League One next season. I was congratulatory on the appointment of Nigel Pearson at first but now I just want him to move on and we will take our chances on what happens next.
     
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  9. Red Robin

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    Next three league games and the cup game will be defining off his future.
    I just hope he turns it around at present under his current stance I believe we will see him depart.
     
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  10. oneforthebristolcity

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    I'm really torn with NP....when he first came to the club, he had a reputation for being arrogant, which I think he is, but thought maybe with his experience and knowhow he would do what SL promised and that was to progress from where we were (although DH was first put in charge for that)..
    From all the time NP has been here I'm still unsure what his game structure is....take a lead and sit back or play on the front foot, nothing has been consistent, which IMO has rubbed of on the players we have in the squad..
    I do like, that he's trimmed the wages and try's to use players from the academy rather than buying in for the sake of..
    By far his biggest downfall is how our defence performs and this is where I have the most concerns and the problem has been that he's just not sorted it out, how and why we leak so many goals..I believe it's down to the coaching as much as it's down to the players..
    At the end of the day, the results are down to him.....I believe he has limited time to address this, relegation is not an option....if it doesn't happen soon then I'm afraid SL will need to pull the plug...... unfortunately, that doesn't guarantee our safety...
    The sad thing is, all the fundamentals are in place, stadium, training facilities and structure look good.....time for NP to live up to his arrogance and turn it around..
     
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  11. realred1952

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    you can teach an old dog very few new tricks and if there is arrogance involved it s a very hard platform to control let alone alleviate. He is a master of disguising and reapportioning the blame... not really true to his philosophy on how he says to "run" things [ especially with players ] .... and defensive coaching seems to be the real weak link.. and assistant coach's not likely to change under his tenure as " came on a mates rates deal"

    the most ALARMING THING is when NP actually took over the reins on 3/3/2022 we plummeted dropped like a stone and have never recovered .... WE ARE FAR FAR WORSE OFF NOW than when SC was in charge

    note ... thank goodness he gave credit to the 2 coach's for the victory over Swansea after the game ! ...... since then he has lost 40 of the 82 champion ship games ... drawn 19 and only won 23 A-B-Y-S-S-M-A-L
     
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  12. Redprintt

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    We can coach front runners like Conway and midfielders like Scott but not defenders like Vyner. Forget King I can't understand Pearson on that one.
    I think it's the players ability rather than coaching.
    IF Kalas and Baker were available you wouldn't be questioning coaching.
     
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    You could class this as the same sort of nepotism and favouritism that brought LJ to be our manager, and how people on here went on and on about it. I note those same people’s silence towards Pearson’s blatant favouritism towards the people he has brought in, Simpson (he signed this useless pr!ck twice….) King and Fleming
     
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  14. wizered

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  15. oneforthebristolcity

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    I believe whatever setup is chosen should be coached, plenty of training to perfect what needs to be achieved...I often question the setup....
    The setup is inconsistent and so seems our form..
    You say about Kalas & Baker...1. that needed the right setup and formation..2. that ship has sailed...so we need other plans in place.....the ones that are in place are not working..
     
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  16. invermeremike

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    Having Kalas back and available would be good thing but he will take time to get back up to speed, and rightly so. Nigel has never got our defensive strategy right and seeing as that is our biggest weakness it makes me wonder where he is coming from on most occasions which leads me to the point of is he as capable as what was on the tin. Late January could be too late to turn the ship around, and if the move to remove Nigel is made then it could leave us floundering with our heads barely above water searching slowly for a new head recruit. For goodness sake don't give us either statement that we have faith in our manager, or even worse that Curtis will take over until the end of the season. Positive action is needed and I don't care where it comes from but surely this is the time to hear from the only man that matters - Lansdown.
     
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  17. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Some are coached, well, if we're talking about Scott and Conway because they have the necessary talent.
    And I realise the Kalas and Baker 'ship has sailed' but so has their innate ability.
    It doesn't matter what the set up is if you play players with lesser ability.
    Of course you can help them with defensive coaching but with what we have at the back they'll always be a disaster waiting to happen, they're just not good enough individually.
    You say we need another plan, I couldn't agree more.
    However its new talent we need or at least selecting Atkinson as a start.
    Coaching what we have won't get us out of the mire and the relegation battle ahead.

    Where I do criticise Pearson is not playing round pegs in round holes.
    Nobody on this planet will tell me King is a better CH than Atkinson.
     
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  18. Red Robin

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    spot on for me Nige has to take this on the chin Atkinson is a far better centre half than King. As is Klose
    if Nige was playing correct players in correct positions and we were losing that is one question but not playing correct players in positions and costing us points that is not acceptable.
     
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  19. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    ALL PLAYERS GET COACHED whether good bad or indifferent! A defender plays a game and does things good does things bad and could done it ....!The coach would obviously pick up on these performances and encourage or discourage them ... so coaching! The same with all players .... !
    we seem to lack coaching the errors of the manager!!!...lol
     
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  20. wizered

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    Nigel Pearson on progression
    Here's what he said to the Robins TV channel: "I think we're about in the same position as we were last year in terms of points, it might be identical I don't know so in some ways progression feels slow but we are getting to grips with our overall situation and that is whether people want to hear it or not with the Financial Fair Play situation, we are very, very confident of meeting the criteria so I think there's been a lot of hard work behind the scenes to continue to bring the wage bill down but still produce a sign that brings optimism.

    "We've still had breakthroughs from a number of youngsters which is very encouraging, what we need to do now is if we can strengthen in January, I think it will be a boost for everybody but we can only do it if the circumstances are right.

    "For us as coaching staff, it's about remaining patient and working very hard with players that we do have because to a large extent we're doing okay but we need everybody flat out."

    (BristolPost)
     
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