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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. BobbyD

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    It wouldn't stop them, but at least we can legitimately say, these guys are twatty illegal immigrants and have more reason to turn them back. You would also presume there would be less of them as asylum seekers now have a choice of applying legitimately rather than having no choice at all and chancing it
     
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  2. qprbeth

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    On the news this morning it said we reject half of the Albanians who ask for asylum and plan to send them back to Albania.

    Which means 50 % are accepted as legal, so are not illegal at all.


    I keep telling you all and you all ignore the fact . The EU countries, have far far bigger problems than we do over this.

    Our problem is highlighted by the channel ...and the visible problem of crossing it.

    Thousands and thousands of people are crossing into the EU across land borders.

    This is a problem that so many of their countries are poor in money, resources and food. ..and made worse by climate change.

    This will be a serious problem now forever, or until we can sort out resources and the climate and human nature
     
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  3. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but why do they all want to come here?

    World’s Top 10 Refugee Host Countries

    Turkey 3.6 million

    Jordan 2.9 million

    Colombia 1.7 million

    Uganda 1.4 million

    Lebanon 1.4 million

    Pakistan 1.4 million

    Germany 1.1 million

    Sudan 1.0 million

    Iran 1.0 million

    Bangladesh 0.9 million

    SOURCE: AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

    The Germany figure would presumably include the million Syrians they took in, but even aside from those they get three times the number of asylum applications that we do, as does France and Spain.

    In 2020, the UK received applications for asylum for 37,550 people (including dependants). This is around three times less than the number of applications received each by Germany (124,380), France (103,370) and Spain (108,225).

    Around 43 per cent of people seeking asylum in the UK in 2020 were women and children. Overall, eight per cent were children who had arrived in the UK alone without a parent or guardian.

    SOURCE: BRITISH RED CROSS
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

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    Albania is not a war-torn country, it's part of NATO and waiting on EU membership. Germany and France reject virtually all asylum applications from its citizens.

    I agree the diaspora from poorer countries is an indefinate problem. But most parts of Europe have the landmass to accomodate numbers. England, particularly the south of England, is one of the most densely populated areas in Europe.
     
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    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    So using Strollers figures.
    We receive 37,000...of which the government are now saying 50% are Albanian.

    Let's say 18,000


    Half are legal.....so 9000 are not.

    Over half are women and children 4500.

    So we are dealing with under 5000, where other countries are dealing with hundreds of thousands..

    But ours are visible in the small boats, and backs of refrigerated lorries.

    As said..it is a huge problem, worldwide, which will only get worse...no idea how to solve it..
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Using the BBC's numbers 45000 illegal immigrants have crossed in dingies so far this year alone
    Not counting the ones who can't afford to pay gangsters and sneak in in the backs of trucks or the ones who lose their paperwork in airports
     
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    2BFA164B-21E5-42E8-8E41-E3E06385F7CF.jpeg

    Never mind the nurses’ pay rise; £115kpa anybody?
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    I've read that twice
    What's the job
     
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    Laugh? My head almost exploded. What a shameless ****

     
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  10. Stroller

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    I hope someone buys me one. I'd love to meet the ****.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Buy your own
    Cheapskate

    I prefer the other original top trump cards
     
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    I absolutely love him ... I can't deicide whether to get my hair styled like him or David Lynch ! I hate having to make choices.
     
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    I think you’d be required to keep all the bollocks within the NHS is full working order whilst exhibiting some of the skills of IK Brunel.
     
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    Next time you hear the droning voice of some plain suited Conservative MP saying there is no money to give working people a decent wage and that we are “all in it together”…..watch this…and get angry…get very ****ing angry.
    They are playing you for ****ing mugs……never forgive, never forget
     
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    When my thoughts are the same as Mick Lynch……I know I’m on the right side
     
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    Agree with your sentiments about Mone, and I suspect this is just the beginning of looking into her financial affairs. She's no toff btw. Glasgow working class. But there must be questions as to why she was appointed to the Lords by the Tories.
     
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