Maybe that’s what they mean by paying tax, they pay more tax so that charities don’t need to do the work that the Government should do, food banks in the 6/7th richest country in the World is a disgrace, and the likes of Allam building hospital facilities because the Government won’t is another shame on the UK
It's an absolute disgrace that end of life care such as Macmillan,Marie Curie and of course Hospices, rely so heavily on the public for the vast majority of their day to day running costs.Without our donations our loved ones would simply be left to suffer in a Hospital or Home(I've seen all and have to say that the care received in the Hospice was by far the most appropriate and dignified)....Give your support all,they need it badly!! As I say,a disgrace but we have no option but to support? The Germans 'had' a reasonable Health Service due to having more beds per capita but I'm not sure if it coped much better than us during the pandemic.I'm not sure what kind of taxes they(Germans) pay, Belgium also has a pretty reputable Health Service but ask a Belgian about the taxes they pay and be prepared for your eyes to water!! I wouldn't object to paying a couple of pence more in the pound to improve all our services but the mere mention of that,to some,is a bridge too far?
The German rates of income tax are no higher than ours, in a lot of instances they are lower. They pay for health care in different ways (they are clamping down some of the abuses their system leads to). I have a cousin who was fairly high up in the NHS and went to various countries to study aspects of the health service related to what she did. France and Sweden were two she liked, for different reasons. Both required things a lot of people here wouldn’t like. The system in France ensured that French GPS saw people face to face during te pandemic and you don’t get fobbed off with phone calls and video appointments. The biggest eye opener was one of her first visits which was to the USSR. One of her party slipped and broke her ankle. She was taken to a hospital the ordinary citizens were taken to. Which was nothing like the shiny, well equipped hospitals they had been taken round which it turned out were reserved for party bigwigs and their families. They made such a bodge of treating her that her ankle had to be re broken and operated on to stop her being crippled.
Germans pay 3% for care service on top of the tax the pay to cover health services. They also pay to cover unemployment. And a separate amount for pensions. All on top of income tax. So overall they pay quite a lot more in to fund these things so have more. Those totals are a higher percentage than our NI which is supposed to cover NHS,unemployment , pensions and other things and ends up having to use general taxation . The Germans, like other health services, run things more efficiently as there is no connection in the NHS to efficiency and results.
Agree. And I too would happily pay more if it guaranteed better services (NHS, Dentists, Social Care, Police, State Education, etc). I think what galls some people about paying more for improved services is simply that throwing more money at our services (NHS perhaps the most high profile example) is not the answer. The amount of waste in those organisations is astounding; they need massive reform much more than yet more money. For sure, one thing they don't need though is cut backs. I fear what is coming in these next few years unless the war ends soon, the benefits of Brexit are finally realised, uncontrolled illegal immigration ends, the economy booms, etc (all unlikely). Back to Allam. Donations such as his should be the cherry on the cake for these organisations, not funding for basic needs. Football related stuff aside, many will be grateful for his generosity.
The NHS budget has only been cut once, due to it been a condition of the IMF bail out to Labour and which led to the Winter Of Discontent.
I didn't say it had. However, certain public sector organisations are seeing their budgets reduced in real terms (allowing for inflation). I don't know if that holds true or not for the NHS following the latest budget announcements. As I posted, unless things change significantly for the better in the next couple of years, the government have already indicated cut backs are coming. (not a political post with any bias from me, I am (*) a Tory voter and desperately want them to succeed (* unless / until a credible new option appears).
Not going up with inflation is now called a cut. If a pint of beer is £3 and inflation 10% and a pint only went up 7p no one would say there had been a 3% cut in the price of their beer. The actual NHS budget was cut, ie reduced, in 1979.
I have to say, I was knobbed off when he tried to change the name of the club, just like everybody else. It made zero sense and it felt like it was being done on some kind of power trip. That sadly is what I'll remember him for, telling us to die when we want. But through all that and reflecting on the years at the club, as an owner he left us on a sound financial footing, which many previous owners can't say they did. For a man who knew nothing about football (evident by the fiasco of the name change), he certainly delivered the best times I've witnessed at Hull City; seeing us play in European qualifiers, having the likes of Hatem Ben (Arf!)a, Abel Hernandez, Harry Maguire, Andy Robertson, Gaston Ramirez, Elmo, Michael Dawson, Andrea Rannochia, Kamil Grosicki, Ryan Mason, Tom Huddlestone and Jake Livermore play in a black and amber shirt really has been understated. To produce youngsters such as Jarrod Bowen and KLP who we sold for big money and to nurture the talent of the likes of Clark, Greaves, Fleming, Batty, McKenzie, Mannion, Cartwright, Bonds and Smith, all of who play in the EFL shows that despite not having much footballing knowledge, he built a network around him that did. Outside of football, his work in the city and his philanthropy cannot be questioned. What he did for this City out of his own hard earned was nothing short of amazing and who knows the number of lives he helped to improve. That has to be applauded, die hard City fan or not.
Well summed up. I've always thought that the fact he put his hard earned cash up when nobody else wanted to gave him the right to do whatever he liked, even change the name. I didn't like it but it didn't bother me that much and I would always refer to the club as 'City' knowing one day we would be officially called that again too. However what he said about people being free to die when they want was disgusting and probably the first time I decided I would no longer defend him and just stay impartial. What happened after that with Ehab and the huge decline was just like watching the end of a mediocre series on Netflix for me. Started pretty well, had some twists but by the end I'm just watching it wishing it would hurry up and end.
Can any person/company who buys a business not change the name of said business then? ( For the record I was against the idea )
And how many football clubs have changed their names since the early days of football and the foundation of the football league? His decision was either out of spite due to his spat with the council or someone gave him the daft idea making us sound like an American club would bring in commercial gains. That turned out to be a faint possibility of £1 million. Big deal. There is a reason clubs don’t change their name.
That's not what I asked but fair enough, as I said, I didn't want or agree with the name change. I'm just wondering if people would have the same outrage if their local shop was taken over and the name changed, or the favourite car brand or their local pub etc...
Jesus Christ, is it 2013? These were **** arguments when people made them back then and they've been debunked dozens of times since. Why would you want to get into this again...
