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World Cup 2022

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  1. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    With this new technology have they conclusively got an exact (and I mean exact) reading for when the ball is played? Because as we know if you input crap into a system, crap comes out. What we've seen up to now are all these arguments for decisions based on mm when it's all dependent upon when someone decided the ball was played. Presumably even with this system there is a fraction of a second within which the system cannot be accurate, so I would hope someone has decided that a tiny part of the body moving at the speed of a footballer can't be faster than the system accuracy.
     
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    Let's see if the shoutier part of our fanbase are so anti-Amrabat now...
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    Fair to say we are probably expecting

    Last 16 : Croatia vs Spain
    QF : Argentina vs Nederlands
    QF : England vs France
     
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  5. The Changing Man

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    Something has to be done though, the offside law is meant to stop an attacking player gaining an advantage by being beyond the last defender these miniscule decisions have nothing to do with gaining an advantage. This is why I have always advocated the change to any part of the body being level with the last defender is onside, and I know that marginal decisions would still occur but at least the player would look offside.
     
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  6. The Changing Man

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    I don't expect anything where England are concerned I think that Senegal have all the tools to cause us problems and we will have to be at our very best to beat them.
     
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    Like giving a Veyron to a bloke who has never driven more than a Renault. Total waste and his comments after the game were just embarrassing.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    If anything this WC demonstrated that the Belgians clung onto the Golden Generation a little too long, in much the same way the Germans did until the 1998 WC or the Dutch until the 2010 WC

    The likes of Verts, Toby and Mertens have all percolated out of top leagues in the last couple of seasons yet remain first-choice for the Belgian team at a time when they needed to ready the next generation of talent to replace them, and this is shown by the odd generational gaps in their WC squad
    35+ - 2 (Vertonghen, Mertens)
    30-34 - 9 (De Bruyne, Hazard, Courtois, Alderweireld, Witsel, Meunier, Vanakan, Mignolet, Casteels)
    25-29 - 8 (Lukaku, Tielemans, Carrasco, Batshuayi, Trossard, Castagne, Dendoncker, Lesser Hazard)
    20-24 - 6 (De Ketelaere, Doku, Faes, Onana, Openda, Theate)
    19 and under - 1 (Debast)

    The vast swing in caps also sticks out, for example since the start of 2021 Trossard has been given 21 caps of his 24 caps, Castagne has been given 18 of his 29 and Dendoncker has been given 18 of his 30, all of which points to waiting too long before cycling in the players who will likely be their first team for the Euro 2024 qualifiers and beyond
     
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  9. PowerSpurs

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    The technology makes the measurement. It doesn't have to be 'seen' by you, me or even the VAR. That's good, not bad.
     
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  10. PowerSpurs

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    The Offside Law has always been drafted as an on/off line decision. Just as all the decisions about whether the ball has crossed any other line. I presume you wouldn't want a goal given because the ball was 1mm from being over the goal line so why do you want a player given onside for being 1mm offside? None of these things are visible to the naked eye but the technology will give consistent decisions. That's better not worse.
     
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  11. littleDinosaurLuke

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    It was out of play
     
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  13. littleDinosaurLuke

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    It looked like it, but technology said otherwise
     
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  14. Left on the Shelf

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    On the plus side, I can put away the whiteboard that I was using to work out all the group permutations...
     
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  16. PowerSpurs

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    The picture on the BBC website says it wasn't. Anyway I thought you wanted marginal decisions to be called in favour of the attack.
     
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  17. The Changing Man

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    Yep but I am with Ally McCoist it looked out
     
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  18. The Changing Man

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    I do and i am happy for Japan
     
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  19. PowerSpurs

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    You can see the whole line under the ball but that means it can still be overhanging the line.
     
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    I think that when Clive Tyldesley explained it like the corners that was an excellent analogy.
     
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