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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    That is the question one letter l or two.
    <laugh>
     
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  2. OLOF

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    What the **** do you know about British politics, you don't watch it on tv or elsewhere you muppet, stick to Yankee politics, or should i say , brush up on them:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. Poly

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    Neither, though many Republicans hope that Trump is indicted & convicted before he can run in 2024
    And since when was stealing top-secret documents (some containing nuclear information), a "misdemeanor" ? More ignorance on your part.


    No, you don't watch US television news, you were just lying

    Which "bollox" do you refer to ?


    Do you actually think the US Democrat party is left wing compared to say, the British Conservative party ?
    Are you aware of how many legal investigations Trump is under right now ?
    When confronted, you went silent over your debunked claim that CNN ever labeled violent protests as "peaceful"
    When confronted about your lie about watching US television news, you went silent over the last show you watched and its content
    When asked about Fox News' repetition of Trump's shameful comment about "fine people on both sides", you went quiet on that too

    In short, I'd say the evidence stacks up against you, and you indeed don't know what the f**k you're talking about

    All you have is mindless lies and malicious insults.
     
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  4. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Never really understood this left wing right wing thing.
    Castro left wing dictator.
    Kim erm his own wing dictator
    Hitler, right wing dictator.
    USA 1 st amendment, freedom of speech, today?
     
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  5. Poly

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    A damn sight more that you ever will
    I even studied politics at college

    And yes, I watch the BBC on my cable TV. There is such a cable TV channel called BBC America - not that you'd know that
    Plus BBC.co.uk

    Yeah, as I said, All you have is mindless lies and malicious insults.
     
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  6. OLOF

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    Whoopi Carin Elaine Johnson making the case for the prosecution
    Comedy gold<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  7. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Says it all studied politics at college
    Brainwashed from the early years.
    Oh and why do you ‘hate’ Trump ?
    That is a very strong word to use for someone that you have never met.
     
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    OLOF Well-Known Member

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    Ahh, now we're getting somewhere, you've been to college eh,? Indoctrination clinics, that's where you've had your one and only neuron washed and now indoctrinated into leftwing bollox
    You've still got a severe bout of TDS though:grin: you're ****ed
     
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    OLOF Well-Known Member

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    Great minds Este:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  10. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for replying to myself but I just discovered what TDS is, poly seems to have a bad case.
     
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  11. Poly

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    Then I'll tell you, after the French revolution, the newly formed chamber of deputies consisted of conservative, aristocracy supporting members to revolutionaries
    The new chamber was crescent shaped - a bit like the EU parliament
    Those favoring a more conservative change to French society sat on the right of the crescent, those favoriring more radical, revolutionary change sat on the left

    Politics is about the distribution of power, ultimate right wing politics would be all power concentrated in one man (a dictator like Hitler, though even he devolved some power to his henchmen)
    Left wing politics would be the equal distribution of power amongst all citizens (democracy - though for anything larger than say a collective farm, we have to settle for Representative democracy, by way of a parliament for practicality reasons)

    However in democracies - this left/right business really refers to Economics - the distribution of wealth
    Ultimate right wing economics would be one man owning everything (ultimate capitalism), and ultimate left wing economics would be everyone having equal wealth (communism)
    In reality the extreme right/left conditions are theoretical only and reality is something in between.

    The basic argument between Labour and the Conservatives are just economic - the distribution of wealth
    There are no real political differences between them

    So Castro, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot etc were RIGHT wing dictators - just with left wing economics.
     
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    He got it in college, it was ****ing rife in there,
     
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  13. esteponawhite

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    A bit like the book Animal Farm.
    Like I said all politicians are ****s.
     
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  14. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    The crescent shape from the french does sound like a great idea,
    Did the romans and the greeks not have this idea before?
     
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    Animal farm was George Orwell famous satirical book about the Russian Revolution - do you know what satire is ?

    The communist revolution promised great equality, "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" - wrote Karl Marx

    Socialism is a great idea that we just haven't been able to make work

    As it fails, the only way it can be maintained is through the terror and extortion of a dictatorship.
     
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  16. esteponawhite

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    Human nature does tend to get in the way of 'great ideas'
    And I repeat my question why do you 'hate' a fellow human being?
     
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    Well seems I ran out of popcorn,
    Still waiting for an answer from the learned parrot on the 1st amendment and the hatred towards a fellow human.
     
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  18. Poly

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    Yes, the greedy/selfish side of human nature, undermines any attempt at socialism

    It's not so much hating Trump, as a businessman and TV personality, he was fraudulent and obnoxious

    But as president, he represented extremist, racist and xenophobic views than his supporters lapped up
    He told blatant lies and sought to undermine the US political process for his own ends
    His refusal to accept defeat in 2020 (and his election lie that has been absorbed as gospel by his fanatical faithful), have seriously damaged America
    His presidency made the USA a laughing stock in the world and caused long lasting damage to the USA's reputation abroad
    His conduct while POTUS besmirched the office of the presidency
    His criminal activity shows up his reckless contempt for the law - culminating in his involvement in post election insurrection and subverting the electoral process

    His attempts at subverting the democratic process is at the heart of what to hate about him
    Without democratic elections, the USA is no longer a democracy - something worth opposing I think
    If Trump was the president of a third world country, like Zimbabwe or Egypt, he'd have control of the military and be "president for life"* and Joe Biden would be dead

    It is no exaggeration to brand Trump a fascist.

    *Prior to the 2020 election, he actually floated the idea of suspending elections until the COVID pandemic was over and elections were "safe" to hold.
     
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    I just answered

    You can tell us how you think the 1st Amendment is pertinent to the charges against Trump.
     
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  20. esteponawhite

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    Not against Trump, but against some of the posts on here which you do not seem to like.
    Then again having an 82 year old run your country is obviously another great idea.
    If that's the best you have, **** knows the worst option.
    Isn't Kayne running?
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