Collaborators will be prosecuted, and if found guilty, fined or imprisoned. Ukraine joined the Council of Europe in 1995, so had to drop the death penalty.
Honestly Goldie, if you get an email from a Nigerian Prince offering you £2 billion quid if only you give him your bank details……don’t do it. You seriously seem gullible enough
Believe me, I'm not gullible. As I say, it is Ukraine's future interests not to depart from the rule of law. So once collaborators are arrested, they are in the custody of the state. Of course, I don't rule out murders by the public, but criminality exists in every country
If they're lucky they'll end up in the kiddie fiddler section of the gulag, but would expect they'll end up in gen-pop, and meet some serious retribution whilst there....all whilst the authorities turn a blind eye
Or taken into a cold dark basement and tortured to death…..or if lucky getting a bullet to the back of the head and buried in a field somewhere.
Criminality exists everywhere. It was obvious I wasn't suggesting that, unlike the rest of the world, no criminality would take place in Ukraine. But I'm saying that unlike Russia, the Ukraine state must stay within the rule of law, if only to satisfy the EU and NATO.
That couldn't possibly happen, Ukraine is a civilised nation and atrocities like that just wouldn't be accepted....according to Goldie
If the Ukraine state acted that way, and, say, The Sunday Times picked up on it, it would damage Ukraine's prospects of joining the West. Zelensky knows this
One of top Russian collaborators in occupied Kherson dies in ‘car crash’ mw/rl 09.11.2022, 17:54 Kirill Stremousov, deputy head of the Russian-installed collaborationist administration in the occupied Kherson Region, was confirmed by his boss, “governor” Vladimir Saldo, to have died in what was described as a “car crash”. “It is very hard for me to say [...] that Kirill Stremousov died today. He died on the territory of the Kherson region, travelling in a car that got into an accident,” said Vladimir Saldo, his operator and head of the local collaborationist administration. Prior to the full-scale Russian invasion on February 24, Stremousov was just an obscure blogger and a minor local political figure. Following the Russian occupation of the area, he got his big break, becoming Number Two to Saldo on April 26. He enjoyed the dubious honour of being labelled a traitor by his Ukrainian compatriots for a total of 198 days.
But then again Russia haven’t stated that they approve of the “torture chambers”.....though I’m not gullible enough to think that behind closed doors they couldn’t care less and almost certainly approved it
There so many examples of these type abuses, Russia could not convincingly disown them. Hell, they shoot their own soldiers when they retreat.
Just read up on this, his preference was no drinking normally, but when he did he made a point of getting **** faced, which would make him throw up and keep his head relatively clear….he thought.
Mate, the UK acts like this and the Americans act like this and we're the "Civilized" ones. There is absolutely no way in hell the ukranian soldiers/civilians aren't taking retribution. That's just the the way of the world
Care to give examples of extra-judicial torture and murder in the UK where a blind eye was shown by the state and the persecutors were not prosecuted.
When we were sending people to Guantanamo bay? The stuff we did in iraq (until we got caught anyway) I could go with westies favourite example of when we chucked our covid elderly back into their care home (i'm joking ) Whilst i'm sure Putin doesn't mind the torturing going on, whats the difference with the russian army torturing people and our ones?
To answer you last question, the difference is one is done on behalf of a state that will shoot its own soldiers and send assassins around the world to murder people, and the other is rogue soldiers in the British Army that will face criminal prosecution if the evidence is sufficient to prove their crime.
