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Off Topic 2023 NEW START - - inflation - POST EVENT INQUIRIES ++ ARE PEOPLE GETTING Fed up?

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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    We ship in nurses from abroad to help the annual ‘we can’t hope’ whining from the NHS
    A top up of £1bn per day still wouldn’t be enough but while they carry on paying more than 500 people within the NHS over £100k a year to push a pen around instead of doing anything clinical, then it will continue

    And the ultimate insult is that now the nurses that were shipped in to help out are being turfed out of the hotel rooms they were offered in order to make way for scroungers, some of who at the weekend were gracious enough to drape an Albanian flag over a statue of Churchill and complain about their human rights ffs
    And now news that war memorials have been desecrated and vandalised in Nuneaton, Devon, Yorkshire, north Wales, Northern Ireland and elsewhere
    Damage included burning and graffiti with Swastikas in places. All deemed to be ‘racial’
    What is the country coming to ?
     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    So if Brexit is to blame for our current situation, why are countries like Holland enduring 17% inflation at the moment ?

    For me, the Bank of England need to shoulder a lot of responsibility for the mess we find ourselves in. Printing additional billions of pounds and flooding it through our economy over the last decade was eventually a major cause of our inflation situation, and they should have gently raised interest rates here and there starting a few years ago to curb it before it got out of hand.

    I'm no financial guru, and they are supposed to be the experts.
     
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    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    Remainers have got to blame everything on Brexit mate, they've never got over the fact it was down to their own complacency they lost, of couse our trading and way of life took a hit moving 0ut of the EU dictatorship but we all new that, there was never going to be an instant cure all, we have got to regenerate, establish ourselves and become an independent trading nation worldwide once again.

    These people just want to be big state controlled and to cry on someones shoulder when things don't work out yet they are first in the queue to take our money, beg for our armed forces to go over there and die protecting them,. just look at the thousands desperate to get here and live, of course, climate change, the Ukraine war, the energy crisis, worldwide inflation, the lockdown and Covid is all the fault of Brexit.

    There is no doubt we have had a bunch of incompetent idiots running our country, both sides of politics but I would rather everyone of them including the obvious contender than the Brussel miscreants that are getting increasingly desperate to bring us down.
     
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    I certainly agree about the BoE.
     
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    probably because we left!!!! lol
    Brexit is not to blame, problem is the attention seekers prey on those that respond most readily to negativity its bad news and negativity that sells attracts attention The reporters who were on top of the leave campaign are still spieling their anger at backing the wrong "horse" Those that backed the leave campaign have nothing really to add we voted .. democracy gave the answer so lets get on with it

    Bit like Rachel Reeves today ... it was probably the worst ever response to a budget in my lifetime ... and really showed that Labour really doesnt have a sensible or logical answer to the present climate. It was basically all knocking and trying to belittle a trait Labour seems to have adopted from KS and the attitude of lawyers in a court case trying to put down the [ defense/ prosecution ] .. character assassination! without heed to the truth

    I was reading an article in a magazine regarding voting and etc re USA ELECTIONS. It stated that alomg the lines of what I mentioned earlier "negativity" had just 10% of all those gullible to the spreading of negativity actually sat down and thought about 8 or 9% may have voted differently or not voted at all [ reference Republican votes ] this would have meant/ mean a closer conclusion. was written before the vote btw
     
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    Bit like Rachel Reeves today ... it was probably the worst ever response to a budget in my lifetime ...

    Agreed. And I thought she was one of the better lefties !

    And as for the US mid-terms. I don't believe there are any true Biden supporters, but there are tens of millions of anti Trumpers who can't stand their feelings being hurt when faced with the truth.

    It seems a large proportion of the young in America voted Democrat. This must either mean they're woke, don't care about the ever escalating crime issues, liberal, pro gender identity and Critical Race Theory, BLM/Antifa supporters, which I'm not entirely surprised about.
    But how some states can declare the result same day and others take weeks, makes a mockery of their electoral system and leads to calls of 'foul play' whoever loses, as there will always be the element of doubt that the result was tampered with.
     
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    I've only just got around to looking at this.
    According to this chart, the rates of inflation are quite different across the Eurozone - surprisingly so (to me) because I thought that the Euro countries would have more or less the same inflation rates.
    Inflation Rate - Countries - List | Europe (tradingeconomics.com)
    France's rate for example is 6.2% whereas Holland is showing as the highest with 14.3% - yet they trade in the same currency so this seems strange.
    Others like Hungary and the Czech republic and some of the Balkan states are showing as higher again - but I would expect that because they are using their own currencies and not the Euro.
    Fascinating.
    As for the article blaming Brexit - I posted it out of interest because usually these types of anti-Brexit articles usually come from the Guardian or the Mirror. It's unusual to read something like that coming from Sky News.
     
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    Here's a more up to date one for the EU - Netherlands now approaching 17%................

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/225698/monthly-inflation-rate-in-eu-countries/
     
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    BCRW it doesnt matter what the currency it is down to all the various aspects of what initiates price rises shortages/excesses /etc

    again see above, the major influence is not the currency [ not to say that actually importing/ exporting doesnt have a very small effect, it can but in either direction +/- ]

    band wagon / need a bit of controversy in the face of nothing better to report !!!....?
     
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    …. but, re: the currency, given the free movement of goods and people in the Schengen zone, if things are getting expensive in Holland, simply nip over the border and get the same goods at French prices surely?
     
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    INFLATION will have a whole range of %'s I have an Argentina £5 equivalent note sent to me a AM RADIO contact... overstamped by their .gov and worth just about 25p.. from 30 years ago when their inflation was treble figures 300% + and changed upward every day! Probably a collectors piece now!
     
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    absolutely so dont buy in Netherlands nip over to France and help reduce their inflation ...! mind you what you save might be the cost of getting there! Belgium might be better for some or Denmark ...........
     
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    Yes and that's exactly my point. If you can buy the same goods elsewhere (not too far away) then why do they still have different inflation? There is no currency exchange issue - and for people in Holland in particular it's a small drive to go to their neighbour to buy the goods cheaper at French or Belgian prices, hence beating their own inflation.

    Inflation rates don't differ between England, Scotland, Wales and NI - isn't that the same thing?

    'what you save might be the cost of getting there!' - True I suppose if you are only buying small items. Mind you, you just fill your car up with French or Belgian fuel and you've saved money by actually driving there!!!
     
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    isnt that the same thing???? ... reallY BCRW... England, Scotland, Wales and NI - is the United KINGDOM, one country .. one of the reasons for Scotland wanting independence ! surely you have heard about that!
    EU is 27 different countries/.gov's with different economies. They all have their own way to "live" .. so their importance might be like the Germans ... most of the money after tax they earn goes into pensions / holidays / and domestic rental property! [ most dont own their house! ] FUEL PRICES IN EU are now much closer together much the same as differences in parts of UK my last trip to Scotland Diesel was 1.88 Bristol / 194 Perth / 198 north of Inverness. france about 1.81c /ltr
    Netherlands 2. o4c / ltr so 20ltr difference is about 4.5 EURO. SO OK get to France fill up 60l = 15 euro saved probably use 20l to get there and back so a 10 euro saved!

    irrespective of size no guarantee price of certain items is cheaper .. France is not much better than UK ON A LOT OF THINGS EXCEPT IN SUMMER FRUIT AND VEG IS ...............
     
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    but the UK is devolved and the regional governments have a lot of freedom to set their own taxes etc (like Scotlands minimum price for alcohol for example)
    Plus, didn’t a lot of people vote for Brexit because the member states (including us at the time) WEREN’T independent of Brussels??
     
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    makes no difference still central .gov for taxes and duties
     
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    what is so wrong with this statement." the chancellor raises the taxes and what do the public get out of it? ..answer nothing [ made by Rachel Reeves ]
    No thought went into most of her throwaway statements ... like deliberately ...
     
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