He did complain but said that if he jumped up and down and started shouting and screaming like he did at Brentford then he'd just get sent off.
Maybe I’ve got this wrong but can’t you complain after the event whilst it won’t effect the result I don’t see why we should just roll over
Emu love your 100 year stats mate. Ayling played in that position how many years ago for Bristol? This is the prem mate. The tactic was bollox as was shown by conceding 2 goals and losing the match within 5 minutes of him coming on, but hey just my opinion.
That's OK pal. Opinions are what it's about. I just think you've got it in for Marsch and that's fair enough too. Jury is still out on him and whether his tactics work at this level. I hate Struijk at full back and Jesse has to take a bit of blame telling him to tuck in too much. It unbalances the side but as long as Summerville is doing the business it seems to be OK. Today wasn't a tactical thing. Today was the same old errors by the same old players. That's my opinion. Its fine if we are on different pages.
Emu no worries mate, I just wish Marsch could see the benefits of defending from time to time. Brentford have a worse defence man for man than Leeds, but work as a unit and against top teams become a big unit. They also counter attack with speed and score goals and win matches. We just bomb forward and leave the door open exposing ourselves. I believe our defenders are better and proved that when Marsch arrived but this season his tactics are not working and our defending is worse. Yes mistakes by all of them at times, like today from Cooper and Struijk and Koch, but today his subs were crap. It worked for him the other day but not today, it was amateur hour. I Want Marsch to be a success but We need results and consistency, the only consistency we have is that we ship loads of goals
We can defend. We did it against Villa. We were excellent that day at digging in and seeing the game out. We tried to do it today but it didn't get through to the midfield lads (think it was Adams) as they just didn't track Betancur at the edge. Was it tiredness? Adams got sucked towards the ball. Its a small error but an error nonetheless. Then you've got Koch just leaving the door open for Kulusevski for the winner. I'm sure Marsch didn't order him to defend like that. Overall we've shown we can defend as a unit when we want or need to. It's very much a conundrum that Bielsa never figured out. Both Marsch and Bielsa leave defenders exposed. If we stick with Marsch I think we need better defenders that make better decisions, less errors and probably a bit more pace as we seem very lacking in speed. Marsch was saying post match that lack of concentration needs to be resolved and he's said pre match that they are already looking at players in January. Interesting window coming up as Jesse wants players. Question now is will the club back him or are they unsure about his credentials as a coach and not spend again.
Seems the whole of the tv punditry across various Chanel’s think their first goal should have been disallowed and that yet again VAR should have looked at it. There is a reason FIFA don’t want any of our VAR officials at the World Cup, they’re a disgrace. Could we have gone on to win if it doesnt stand? Will we get an apology? Or are they making an example of Leeds because of Marsch touchline act? On the subject of Marsch it’s pointless getting rid of him now as the last 3 weeks have demonstrated we are having problems at the back, but we have a squad who are all behind the manager. We have a team fighting hard, we have a team sweating blood and are in fact scoring goals now. I think that’s 10 goals in thee last 3 games. I think Marsch now gets to have a happy Xmas and hopes to see a new striker and LB in his stocking
We're scoring, if we can only bring 2 players in, personally I think LB and CB are priority over a striker, even though I'd like all 3 of course.
Noticed there are still some wanting Dyche to replace Marsch, why? Someone said on another thread that Dyche would have made sure we didn’t concede against Spurs and think it was Milky who pointed out that the last 2 trips of Burnley to Spurs was a 4 and 5 goals to nil pasting. I would also add to that, that their defenders were better than what we have now. Would have been chuffed getting Tarkowski, Ben Mee, Nathan Collins and Charlie Taylor and suspect if we had them we wouldn’t have shipped so many goals
Do you think with some more funding, Jesse can take us to top 6 - Personally I think that’s laughable, I also pointed out when we were promoted Bielsa never would have either. What is Leeds United long term plan? At the moment it seems like survive in the PL avoiding relegation, in my opinion Dyche would be better than Jesse for this. If however the 49ers are ready to take full control and pump some money in then fine, let’s stick with Jesse, when we sign these players and he fails we can replace him with someone decent. It all depends what a genuine ambition is, at the moment we went into this season with the thought let’s avoid relegation.
Long term Marsch isn’t the answer. I dont like the way he sets up and think he doesn’t know how to defend but plenty disagree with me. His football is frenetic it doesn’t flow and I also believe he will struggle to entice real top top players if he had the cash. But right now a choice between Dyche and Marsch I have to go for the yank as I hate hoofball
As it stands he certainly doesn't look like a long term answer but neither do the owners, not a knock at them but they just don't have the funds to go to the next level, which isn't Europe but becoming an established PL team. I think Marsch as done enough to keep his job at the moment and if he could bring in, say 3 more players of his own choice, then he may prove to be better than at present and it would be fairer to judge him then, there's a chance we get Wagner at LB, a new CB and striker could see us become more solid. Anyway it's Dyche to Everton.
Irrelevant now I know but I’d have liked to have seen what Dyche could have done with some decent players, I think he’s been stereotyped. Anyway, my greatest fear was Jesse spunking the funds on awful players and getting the sack leaving us in a no hope position. Thankfully the signings have been decent, the youth players are looking better each game so no matter what he does or when he leaves I don’t think we’ll need a massive overhaul, anyone new coming in in the future has a decent group to work with
I’m in the same position as emu re marsch. I’m by no means sold on him - but have found myself defending him from a combination of some bielsa luvvie myopia and what in my opinion are some pretty unrealistic expectations and hysteria when results don’t go our way. Top class sport is fine margins and every other team is hiring highly thought of coaches and buying top talent. Yet How long for example did it take arteta to get Arsenal performing close to expectation. Look at them now. A lot of our fans don’t seem to like JM’s brand of football - and that’s a personal thing but I think, although it’s frenetic, it can be exciting to watch… at times too exciting defensively We’ve actually played better than I expected… and no one has rolled us over yet. But it’s also clear we have to find a way to plug the holes defensively.
Rich I think Dyche is in the same mould as Big Sam who once said: “if I had the money of Man Utd or Real Madrid I would win the Champions League too”. Now that may be true we will never know but it’s obviously possible that Dyche could do it too with the backing. Both these blokes would have had to change their style, their tactics and in the case of Dyche lets not forget the dogs abuse Bamford took from him, his staff and some senior players…..
I get where you’re coming from, hence why I asked where do you see us as a club and our aims. My view is we’re currently trying to avoid relegation, that’s based on the games so far, not the wins against Liverpool and Bournemouth. That view/opinion might change if by January the 49ers have taken control and given Jesse a war chest and we make some decent signings. If that’s the case, it might not matter so much as with backing and with a stronger squad we can attract better than the Sean Dyche of the world. That’s if Jesse fails. My opinion of wanting him was based on league position and having Radz remain in charge and limited funds. I’ve seen enough of it now to realise we’re not going much further up the table AS THINGS STAND. We’re not going to attract a top coach, Jesse isn’t capable with what he has, before the Liverpool and Bournemouth wins I’d have rolled the dice and brought Dyche in. Now I’d have reservations as it really depends on who we get and if there is any money to go and get at least two of the three signings we need
January will prove what our aims are. A repeat of last one and we’re destined to be a bottom five club under the current muppets as long as they’re in place
