Could be said the other way around, if Conte signs a new contract tomorrow and is screwed by Levy in the window then he could just keep picking **** until Levy had no option but to sack him off with a massive pay off. Managers rarely lose money when kicked out and someone with Contes rep would just walk straight into another top job.
Just noticed you said I had an entitled lack of patience. Again? How long do we wait before it’s acceptable by your standards to dare moan.
It’s a secondary domestic cup, most countries don’t even have one. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to win but when it’s the only thing your club has won in over 30 years then something needs to improve.
If Spurs opted for the year’s extension, of course it changes nothing and Conte could still walk or be sacked (but with compensation).
If they’re both that sceptical of each other then it doesn’t bode well. They need to trust each other if they want to maintain a good relationship, this is where Paratici can smooth things over.
I think I had a moan last week but that's a little different from calling for a new manager, again. My support and enjoyment of following Spurs does not depend on trophies. Must football fans do not expect trophies otherwise there would only be a couple of supported teams in the land. Just take a little reflection on how you might sound to say a Milton Keynes or a Rotherham supporter or in fact to most supporters who follow teams with very little chance of winning a trophy. They are happy to win the next game and perhaps see some improvement to their team? I want to see Spurs do well, of course I do, and very few of us have enjoyed the last few games BUT ditching yet another manager is the least likely to advance the cause and when fans start claiming they know better than one of the most successful modern managers in the game hmm!. Not very likely, is it? Take a step back to where we were when Nuno was here. Most successful teams in the history of the game have achieved it through stability at the top. The only team that has bucked that trend has been 'money no object Chelsea' and I personally hope we are never in that position because in my opinion that's not sport. We have in place a Manager recognised throughout the game as one of the best. We've done well to get him now let's have a little patience and allow him to work to achieve what he said would take a few seasons to achieve.
I missed out the 'dream' bit that all football fans probably have. The dream that one day their team will achieve something amazing like Roy of the Rovers, but dreams do come along in a smaller way all the time in football. For Forest fans returning to the top league has been a dream and then beating Liverpool and Spurs despite being bottom of the league. For Spurs fans it would be winning the league, or a cup would be a good dream, but what we don't want is to turn those dreams into nightmares and yet another false dawn.
I guess the sub question is what’s the right amount of patience? If you’re watching poor management, poor football and now poor results, how much patience does that require before you either see improvement or require change?
I said this to PNP the other day, but at the moment, you're in the top-4 and qualified top of your CL group with a favourable draw in the RO16. From that perspective, you're still doing OK for now, even in spite of the poor football and lack of squad management this season. My guess is, unless top-4 is seriously under threat, you get KO'd from the cups relatively early and results continue on a downward trend, his job won't be called into question by Levy and co. yet. I don't envisage him leaving before the end of this season unless things nosedive very fast. It'll be interesting to see what you do in January as well. Who knows, if you make a couple more Bentancur/Kulusevski type signings, the mood will feel very different.
I get where you're coming from, but unfortunately, we live in an era where trophies are harder to win than ever before. City and Chelsea - clubs owned by Sheikhs and (previously) Oligarchs - have monopolised the lion's share of silverware over the past decade or so, with a sprinkling of silverware being won by Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal. Then in Europe, you're having to compete with superpowers like PSG, Bayern Munich, Barcelona & Real Madrid in addition to the other English clubs. You either need some luck, the 'elite' sides to have an off day or everything to go in your favour when you're competing with teams who have the resources and capabilities of City, PSG, Bayern etc. I understand the desire and wanting of silverware, but expecting trophies is not a luxury either of our clubs have in this era of football.
I care more about entertaining football and moving in the right direction than trophies. As BG suggests, we can do everything right as a club and still end up potless. I don't think that most of our fans are enjoying themselves right now, though. We haven't been for a few years, in my opinion. There's been some moments, but the week-to-week is a real grind.
Poor football and poor results you may get away with, although we are still 4th and have topped our CL group, but poor management suggests you have the ability to make that judgement. If you have why are you not managing a pro football team? OK, lack of opportunity might be one such reason. In order to discuss poor management, you have to understand the reasons for decisions and it's not clear to me that any of us do. For example, why is Conte picking Emerson and not Spence or Doherty? I don't except it's because he is stupid because his track record suggests he makes good football decisions. There are any number of reasons for picking or not picking players which include: Ability, Attitude, Fitness, Intelligence, Age, Sociability, Methods, Skills, Team Ethics, Desire and on and on. We as fans can only know the surface of any given players suitability or otherwise for a position. For that reason/reasons I don't take too seriously football fans judgements on team selections.
Still 4th, for the time being. Just like the other week you were saying "we're still 3rd". We were in all competitions a week ago, we're not now. There's a direction we're currently going in and it's not a positive one. The luck of playing woefully and winning has ran out and it was long overdue to be honest. Everyone's capable of making judgement, you don't need to be a professional to do that. I said Winks was poor and Dele had become poor, managers still played them, doesn't mean I know more than the managers but showed I can call something correct. Right now I'm saying similar of Sessegnon and Emerson. You made judgements on Jose just as others are making current judgements on Conte. As for why Conte is picking Emerson? Only he knows that because I don't think many can quite work it out. It's certainly not helping the team though and that ultimately falls on the manager. He's here to find solutions, not keep trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Spence showed more promise in his cameo than Emerson's done all season but we still won't see him today for reasons only Conte can think of.
I am not talking about your judgement of individual players, we can all do that by observing their performance on the pitch. Team selection is quite different and we just don't have the full picture to do that. People will continue to do it and I will continue to point out that it's bollocks. This is the age of 'I'm entitled to my opinion' as a result there is more bollocks spoken by the human race than ever before. Opinions without knowledge are worthless. There is a reason why teams pay millions to managers.
And yet you you were happy to tell everyone Jose was doing bad, despite him being paid millions. Huge amount of hypocrisy in your recent posts.
I said I was fed up with the football he played, I did not at any time suggest I knew better than Jose how to pick a team. I was also fed up with Nuno and AVB no change in my views on that. Stick to criticising my views please DH.
