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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    We don't know that we don't know that either.
     
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  2. clockstander

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    Also, there are some things we will never know.
     
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  3. The Exile II

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    The Rumsfeld Paradox.
     
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  4. gelders pie

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    you need to know things even when you don't need to know them. You need to know them not because you need to know them but because you need to know whether or not you need to know. If you don't need to know, you still need to know so that you know that there is no need to know.
    Yes Prime Minister- classic
     
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    The Titchfield Thunderbolt.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

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    Williamson was a ridiculous appointment if only because he's useless.

    Braverman doesn't seem any better but being kicked out twice in a month wouldn't look good on Sunak ....

    .... he'll be hoping she doesn't do or say anything else that's stupid so he can ignore her.

    If he sacks her she'll turn on him and blow his cover.

    Perhaps Government is always this bad but they've kept it all hidden. Even the advisers and civil servants go blabbing to the media theses days.

    Boris has left quite a legacy.
     
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    Aye, only qualifications needed now are degrees in Latin. Greek Mythology and bare faced lying. That, or walking into the room while the Prime Minister's mistress is giving him oral sex <laugh>
     
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  8. The Exile II

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  9. Smug in Boots

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    It's an absolute shambles.

    Anyone hoping Sunak is the man to sort things out will be very disappointed ...

    ... being second best choice behind Liz Truss doesn't fill me full of confidence.
     
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    So our shadow health secretary jests about senility, whilst in parliament, supposdly doing his job? These people lack any sort of awareness whatsoever. You really couldnt make it up could you. It is ok though, he has apologised, all move on now.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    Not sure what punishment would be appropriate ...

    ... perhaps spending a day with Corbyn trying to get him to remember what he was saying <laugh>
     
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    His ultimate punishment is that it probably means he will never serve as health secretary. In the modern political world a tory opposition will bring it up at every opportunity and the media will hammer him with it every time there is an NHS agenda. I have no idea if we would be good minister or not, but I think as health secretary in waiting you cant be jesting about such a health condition as this. I find it all quite distasteful to be honest. Lets see if Starmer deems it worthy of punishment or not I suppose.
     
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    Do you think so, I doubt it'll be mentioned again, in the media, after this week.

    It was a stupid comment but I doubt there'd be a suitable punishment ....

    ... what would you suggest, seriously.
     
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    The media will move onto the govt issues very quickly. If Labour become the govt then I think it will come back to haunt him. Seems to be the way politics works.

    Not sure my opinion on a punishment is very useful, more interested in what the Labour leadership make of it. For what it is worth, my view is that he has admitted joking about a very serious health issue affecting many in society, a particularly horrible thing, whilst performing his job as shadow health secretary. I think that makes his position untenable to be honest and he should lose his job as shadow health secretary. He is the best the Labour party have to offer seemingly, but I think he has let them down.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    Fair enough, I doubt there'll be that much made of it.

    Could be wrong but I doubt it.
     
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    If he'd been a Tory the screams for him to lose his job would have been absolutely deafening.
     
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    I think you are right, it will be glossed over I suspect. I just think that is wrong, personally. So far Starmer is waving it off as no big deal, which for me indicates the bar he sets for standards of his front bench. I believe if it were Steve Barclay who had made the comment Starmer would be clamouring for this to be the next massive news story and for Barclay to go, for Sunak to be questioned over his appointments etc. The media would be lapping it up too.
     
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    Who by, wouldn't the media be straight onto it if it were the big story you're suggesting.
     
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    Starmer
     
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    I'm confused now.

    You were saying the media will be 'hammering him' ...

    ... now you seem to be saying the media would be only 'lapping it up' if he was a Tory.


    I don't think either is the case, it's just not a massive deal.
     
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