Because ive seen evaluations of 20 plus million with this and that player chucked in and I don't think we'll get anywhere near something like that. if he had 4 year left on his contract and on daft wages then possibly. I know the club have a 1 year option, but that will probably be down to terms. All of the above of course is only my opinion.
I'd hope the club are strong enough to tell Stewart he's not going anywhere in Jan unless we get £15m. With a view to negotiating something like £10-12m in the summer depending on how he performs in the 2nd half of the season. Ideally he signs a new contract (with a release clause), but I can see him going in Jan for £8-10m
If the model is to sell as soon as an offer with some profit comes along we may aswell give up on ever being more than a mid-table championship team. Cause as soon as we build a team with a few players that could step up they will be bought and we will start again. We need Stewarts workrate, we would be pushing for top 6 without his injury imo.
*Just seen your post young2077 after putting this up. If our plan is to find promising young players, coach them and when they start playing good, sell them, then use the money to find other promising young players, how will we improve? When Ba, Bennette and Michut start playing well will they be sold off? Selling Ross may bring a lump sum in but how much of that sum will be used to get other players in and will they be an improvement on Ross or more ‘promising young players’ Will we be a team with lots of inexperienced but promising players, continuously learning but sold when they improve. It begs the question, why don’t other clubs cut out the middle man, get these players and improve them. If we keep selling our best players (like Stewart, Clarke, Cirkin, Neil and others often mentioned) we will never get anywhere. We may make a bit money but surely we need to hang on to our better players. I think KLD mentioned using any money if we sell Stewart to buy a better player. Anyone see a flaw in that reasoning? We might get lucky now and then (Stewart for Wyke did work) but more often it ends up as someone like Grigg
Exactly THIS!! LND is our best player & biggest asset, and KLD should be busting his guts to keep him. No Team sells its best player unless it’s for ridiculous money. Like you say if we let him go for £7-10m, we might as well give up. Bart
Playing devil's advocate but what if Stewart and his agent say that he's not going to sign another contract? What would you expect the club to do then? Personally if that was the case, I would try and get as much for him as possible but ideally I would like him to sign another deal for a couple of years if possible. The trouble now is that players and their agents hold all the cards these days rather than the clubs.
He and the agent need to be told that he’s going nowhere on the cheap. Give him a load more money, with a sensible selling price - this would protect him & SAFC. FFS SAFC has made him what he is. He needs to be reminded of this. TBH this should’ve been sorted months ago, which smells of penny pinching if you ask me. We could be in a relegation battle - selling in Jan makes no sense whatsoever. Bart
Isn't this just Maja MK II. If it happens then we appear not to learned anything. Of course were all discussing without really knowing what lengths the club have gone to to keep hold of him. Just wish it was sorted cos this isn't doing anybody any good.
There is always going to be a point when KLD and co sell a successful player. From the club’s point of view, all it can do is get the timing right and the fee right. I’d rather have this than, for example, what happened with Lamine Kone. Right, he got a pay rise and we kept him. He didn’t look happy though. Hindsight says we should have sold for £15 million plus.
I'm coming round to the opinion we should've sold Dan Neil when clubs were sniffing ... .... that speculation has all gone very quiet now.
I'd like to see him stay, a footballers career is shot as we all know, and the aim for any player is to play at the top level. Our modle at the club probably scuppers a chance of promotion as self sustainable translates to "I'm not putting a load in" from the owner. Load more teams freshly relegated have the spending power we simply don't.So if a PL club is showing any interest,he'll have went from, Scottish football, to leauge one, championship to possibly premier leauge within 4 years. I think he'll be off and we'll have to find the "next one". Not being negative, just lowering my expectations.
Dan has got a lot of qualities. One I think he’s missing is that ‘quality midfielder gene’ of knowing innately where opposition players are. It gets him and us in trouble. Teemu Tainio, now there was a quality midfielder for us. Totally injury prone, mind.
Couldn't disagree more. Self sustainable can also lead to profit and promotion. It all hinges (IMHO) on recruitment - if you can buy a Stewart for 350k or a Cirkin for 900k, develop them then sell them on for £5-10m which gets reinvested into the team to find more hidden gems, or established players then you can still be successful. The last thing we want is KLD to be financing the club every year like Short was because that smacks of bad recruitment and financial management.
replying to this a second time. Lol I for one said and still wood be happy with a no nonsense mid table finish fingers crossed. We will have to see how it pans out. Some very good players unearthed this season for us. as for promotion, I believe IF we went up this season, would we be equipped for the PL? probably not, so it's probably best we're in the Championship a couple of seasons. When we played Burnley, it was clear who had been promoted from leauge one and whom had just dropped out of the Premier Leauge. Personally I think we're doing very well for a newly promoted team as you have said yourself. As you would probably agree, what most people want isn't necessarily the best for all.
Exactly this, loads of comments about the club selling players at the first opportunity, yet the club have quite publicly stated they want him to sign a new contract. They have a wage structure that they have to stick to, if Stewart thinks he's worth more than that or he should be playing at a higher level than us then the club has to evaluate their options and look to sell him for the most money at the time that suits the club. If he doesn't sign I don't think we can blame the club they are trying, people may say we should be pulling out all the stops to get him to sign however break the wage structure and there will be so many more problems along the way, if he wants to sign then he will if he doesn't then he won't and I for one would prefer him to move on if he doesn't want to be here. I do really hope he does and signs as he's a fantastic player if not then we move on
