The thing is though, we're probably not getting sold any time soon. FSG said they're open to investment and the media as a whole blew up and say we're for sale. I've no doubt if the right offer came in we would sell, but based on everything FSG has said, they're really only looking at investments, selling a share.
What I have read is that Dubai supposedly is back looking. Dubai Investment Capital, the same DIC that tried to buy us before Hicks And Gillette, are sniffing around. That would be a polarizing purchase. Last time around they were pretty much sounding like they weren't just going to buy the football club, but the whole city and improve it... . They would certainly invest... But it would be more oil money and lots of people don't want that. I don't know if you all recall, they were even talking about buying Tranmere as a feeder club back then (which almost certainly wouldn't have flown with the FA and I'm not sure what that would really accomplish) As I said above though. I don't believe any of it. Bet they'll just sell a slither of us to fund Bellingham purchase.
Or make it look like they're trying to fund the Bellingham purchase. They're not. We won't get CL next season, and even if we did, Real and Chelsea will be in for Bellingham next summer. I think FSG are in trauma at breaking their usual £15m net spend limit this summer, and, to be brutally ****ing honest, have taken one look at Darwin and thought "FFS". We'll end up with Maitland Niles next summer if FSG are still here and Soton get relegated, mark my words.
They need cash to invest in the squad. They’re looking for investors to buy a share of the club. one thing is for sure, it’s a sign that the current model is broken now….and there’s no surprise, city, Utd, chelsea, Arsenal and now Newcastle have all totally outspent us. Klopp cannot close that gap without a significant war chest - which to me, it looks like FSG are trying to deliver.
I think that this is wrong thinking. Arsenal. Less revenue. Where the money coming from? No stadium builds needed any more so... are they also running up debt? Man utd. Same revenue. Again not arsed to spend on stadium and owner with hand in back pocket to tune for 30mil. Running up debt. Fine to talk city but they are spending it on wages and there's something still dodgy about it. Cheslea are nuts. New owner sees zero debt and a plaything and spends mad money wildly and crappily. Now Newcastle. 211mil net spend. Its hardly buying the league given where they were at squad wise and still are, and add in the fact we spend 125 on season 5 years ago.. hardly breaking ffp. So separate current window of form from long term picture. There's a whole series of clubs that have no more revenue than us at play and we are building and paying for stadium refurbishment. It's really thst simple. There's zero point fixating on any one club or other as they all have made massive errors at times with poor owner decisions or poor transfers amd the current set are no different. This funk about other clubs spending more is something I see a few others around the Internet talking about. Maybe fsg are trying to get more.money for players but I doubt it personally. We have a way of doing it. It's not the way cheslea went about it this summer. Hopefully in the slightly longer term it will work better for us
my point is that money buys success, eventually, Period. We will be forced out of the top four by the aforementioned clubs if we don’t seek investment now. This will devalue the club when the value should grow. It’s not even an opinion, it’s in black and white when you look at the table. FSG will not spend more than we earn but they will invest when there is a return. This exercise is exactly that.
Silly season in the press. Just read that deal already agreed with a Qatar investment group. Don't believe it for one minute, but this is going to get sillier than transfer season with all the nutty links.
Yes money buys success. we are not short of it. long term running debt to buy success is not going to work as you end up like Chelsea. run the debt and hope the club increases in value so that you can pay off the debt when sold. Clubs are going to look more like leeds under risdale than Chelsea IMO. there's absolutely no link between clubs wildly spending and hoping something sticks and us being forced out of top 4. Again the model thus far is smart spending. We've clearly not done that on the midfield in past 2 seasons. Again have arsenal been forced out of top 4 or did they just completely **** it up in the last season of wenger. Have they got back in this year? yes so there's no assurance of permeant exclusion from anything. Man utd have taken hits several times and bounced right back. the reality is 7 or 8 into 4 doesn't go. It hasn't gone for years and still the fun and gams continues. Man utd - Tin hat buying anthony who looks a bit of a scream, martinez who's too short, paying ronaldo 500k a week for nowt and ruing sancho. its hardly looking like a top 4 lock there Chelsea - spend 250mil and looks wasted. sterling cucurella, not brilliant, fofana injued, koulibaly, not all that. again not a top 54 lock Newcastle: cheap pope, cheap targett. went out and bought isak late on for 70mil. and that makes them look far more of a spender. its easy right now for them with 1 game a week to tick along. looking good now but who knows, I've seen teams blow up as well Arsenal - doing great. have built a lot of forward power and energy, but it could all implode as we kind of expect on them too. city- are city- squad is big enough Spurs - horrid looking team right now and discontent with fans, but winning mostly. not a lock for top 4 either Us. we are making out we are totally shot but in reality we are two bad results behind 4th. (ad 6 poins form leeds and forest to our tally and we are only 1 point off) I'd like us to spend 200mil same as anyone else Salah firmino thaigo Henderson Fabinho VVD/Matip 6 buys to have these guys replacements ready to go. Keita and ox have failed, fine ok... but its really about the top men aging not the crap
Compared to the vast majority of clubs we're mega rich already. Compared to City, Chelsea, Newcastle... We're paupers. We finally brought in more money than United last year, but probably a one season blip from so much success. Long term, FSG has put us in good setting. They're model.owners how to succeed without "cheat-mode money" enabled. Longer they run the club, better we'll be compared to most clubs. We'll never make as much as the mega rich oil clubs though... And over time that will make a massive difference. Every once in a while a poorer club will succeed and a rich club will falter... But long term the richer clubs will succeed more. We're seeing some of that this season. You're right though, our top players have all aged at the same time and surely the club saw this coming because we on this forum were discussing the exact same thing three years ago, how our best players were all about the same age. We've not been able to replace them with equal quality. Darwin, for example, isn't a budget buy, but we all know who spent more on a striker last window.
but we are not paupers. we bought nunez for how much? We paid salah how much We bought alisson, vvd, fabinho and so forth and so on. We try to get value and worked smarter with money. Jota 45mil, diaz 49mil eventually. nunez 64 mil rising to 85mil. thats 179mil of commitment for a front 3 to keep us happy over 2.5 windows This is not paupers when you still have to spend what you earn under prem rules never mind other rules. max 110mil over 3 seasons lost or you are in trouble. We'd all like klop pto be a bit more ruthless and get shut of keita and ox and milner and have more players in but he didn't do it. Thats it. Do we know if he had 50milofr a singing? I just don't know but we still assume he wanted touchy Lets just be crystal clear deliotte publish every year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2020–21 In 2022 we expect to grow again and be level with man utd we ae talking like a potentially TOP FIVE global revenue club is a pauper. Its just not the case. Lets leave out city as they are clearly and obviously faking revenue left right and centre and getting away with it (they must be paying the tax on it i guess) City got done on ffp b tring to hide spend. they have decided that after geting out of it with lawyers delaying case that the best thing is to inflate revenues to the point that they can spend anyhting they want People should read der Spiegel investigations on city. Eventually this will come out and there will be a massive explosion in football. Anyway... as i said. city must be paying uk tax or surely revenue would be all over them.
And I didn't say we were. I said we were rich compared to most clubs but paupers compared to the oil rich clubs. It's no major secret that we spend a lot more than say, Leeds, but City spend a lot more than we do. The discretionary funds for transfers and salaries isn't there. Yes, we have been investing in infrastructure instead, but that doesn't bridge the gap in spending to City, etc.
But even either oil states we are still not paupers. We are merely a business living within its sizable means. Derby are a pauper. Let's be real about this fans of non super league scum teams laugh constantly as they see no difference between us and them cos they can't compete with either
Conor McGregor is reportedly interested He doesn't have £4b so can't buy out alone, would need to be a consortium. Can't see FSG accepted him as a share holder either I'm pretty sure he's a Man Utd fan too
I could have voted but I decided not to because I haven't been following the local race close enough. Usually I do a lot of research and I do vote. This year, I've done none, so I didn't vote. (I refuse to vote based on party alone) Besides. I'm in South Carolina, and it's never a race here. Republicans win everything by a landslide so my vote is always futile. (I do occasionally vote Republican candidates though because not all of them are evil). The real elections in South Carolina are the republican primaries.
Think Desantis is nailed-on Republican presidential candidates now. Trump will declare candidacy to keep the gift going and try and stave off prosecutions, but he'll anoint Desantis and offer up his MAGA loons in return for a pardon, imo. Really thought the dems would be annihilated tbh.
Think about how bad the gop must be. 40 year high inflation Really unpopular senile fool at the helm Etc etc Obama lost 40nodd Congress seats and trump 60. Biden not lost too many at all Trumps a ****ing mill stone round their necks not a help. Any other era this would be a landslide to republicans just due to inflation alone.
