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City's next manager

Discussion in 'Cardiff City' started by BluefromBridgend, Sep 20, 2022.

  1. ccfcremotesupport

    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    There is a case for 'better the devil you know'.
     
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  2. FrankfurterBlue

    FrankfurterBlue Well-Known Member

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    I bet he's going to Porthcawl! There's a buyer there for sure! Lots of good advice anyway.
     
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  3. Oldsparkey

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    It's his round on the cod and chips at Beales' Park, but the advice is free. <ok>
     
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  4. FrankfurterBlue

    FrankfurterBlue Well-Known Member

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    You could take him to that fancy Dan Indian restaurant near you. Push the boat out a bit. he'd enjoy the welcome and feel better about the club and dob a few bob in (again!!!).
     
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  5. jck200

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    This owner has been paying the bills all this time, has put over £200 million into the club and just gave us £2 million for 2 strikers and got us promoted to the premier twice meanwhile many are happy to put up with inept managers and players who are responsible for actually winning the games and showing a decent spirit on the pitch. Tan has been generous and has been treated really badly by fans, the men at the club are his reps and only answer to him. As soon as the fans raise enough money to buy the club and run it the way they want at least show some respect for Tan and the men he left in charge at the club. Do fans know how much money it takes to put on a match, it is not just the cost of toilet rolls, the clubs like most clubs lose money.
     
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  6. Oldsparkey

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    You're talking rubbish again.

    It's not a question about the money Tan has invested in the club as you seem to think we're discussing - nobody has ever disputed that. It's the use of that money and the lack of football expertise amongst the decision makers at the club that have made such a waste of it.

    You need to get off your high horse and have a degree a humility on this forum for other's opinions. Just face the footballing facts not just the money ploughed into the club, rather than citicise those that can actually appreciate the situation.
     
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  7. ninian opinion

    ninian opinion Well-Known Member

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    That’s the point.

    What’s bizarre is how an obviously successful businessman is seemingly happy to watch money drip out of the club with no return or prospect of a return for the investment.

    I cannot believe if his other businesses were run like the football club ie without specialists in the management of the business he’d tolerate it.

    Yet he is apparently satisfied to let non specialists and lay people run a multi million pound part of his business portfolio.

    Unless he’s got a cunning plan we don’t know about:emoticon-0138-think
     
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  8. BrizzleBluebird

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    Playing a little bit of Devils advocate here, haven't we actually started seeing a change in approach though, in order to make us a far more sustainable entity?

    Whether we like it or not, we've moved away from spending money on older "experienced" players, that come with big salaries and have moved towards the more youthful and "hungry" market.

    We've seen far more reliance on younger players coming through at the club.

    We've ditched big name, experienced and expensive managers for younger, internal appointments too. Which in many regards is a sensible move (they know the players and club already so can continue to work with and refine what's there rather than rebuild entirely).

    I also wonder, are we sometimes a little too hard on our own club?
    We've recently had Bilic singing our teams praises (he may have just been being polite, but he has no reason to do so) and we've had several gracious Sunderland fans on here saying we have been one of the best teams they've faced this year (echoing Bilic's comments).
    Perhaps in our thirst for more, are we overlooking the fact our side is more capable than perhaps we give them credit for?

    Maybe, just maybe, Hudson CAN be the right man to keep our revolution going?

    We are after all in a transition season, and we've all expected bumps along the way....
     
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  9. clingo

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    Morning Brizzle.
    You've made a logical, persuasive and predictably eloquent argument sir and one with which I have strong agreement.

    My concern is that while there is a definite change in footballing style at the club which is a million times better than recent times, the track record of our board makes it feel like we've got there by accident rather than design. Now it could be argued that we just accept what we have regardless of how we got it, but my fear is that mistakes made by the board will happen again and again.

    I also think it's worth remembering that Hudson was brought in a while before Morison's departure. So perhaps only technically promoted from within.

    My personal doubts about it all are based on a reluctance to put some football nous on the board and the largely unexplained departure of SM.

    We've wasted a massive amount of dish on poor decisions and the people that made them are still pulling the strings.

    Let's hope my reservations are miles off and for now, I'll try to return to celebrating what we have and are achieving.

    Bloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobirds
     
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  10. Oldsparkey

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    Hear, hear. <applause>
     
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  11. Oldsparkey

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    The only thing that's we can be sure of is history.

    The only thing that matters now is the future going forward without making the same poor decisions.
     
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  12. BrizzleBluebird

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    You (and many others on here) may well be right Clingo. It could well be that it is a happy coincidence that our club is now looking like a far more sensibly run concern (at least on the playing/spending front) with our owner and board stumbling across the solutions via Morison and his hard graft.

    I would like to think that VT and/or the board however did set out some of the aims and goals when appointing him. You'd like to think they realised that the days of humouring the likes of Warnock with transfers such as Isaac Vassell and Gary Madine really did have to be a thing of the past.

    I think however, we're all agreed that it would be nice to see someone with a more recognised footballing track record on our board though, despite however well (or poorly) the current pathway works out.
     
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  13. ninian opinion

    ninian opinion Well-Known Member

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    Clingo

    In the words of the late Meat Loaf “you took the words right out of my mouth.”
     
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  14. FrankfurterBlue

    FrankfurterBlue Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Brizzle on this. Hudson has been with us before and came from being with a youth team setup at Huddersfield. It may even be that he was instrumental in helping Morison get off to the good tsart he did.
    Rumours seem to abound about M's abrasive aggressive attitude that many did not like, But He started us along a path and Hudson smees to be taking us further.
    Of course, some nous on the board might help...or might it get in the way?........and let's not forget the big spenders who probably benefitted even earlier...M McK for example.
    All that was not sustainable but hopefully we can become more so and still enjoy the football more than in the past.
    I must say, the few bits I see when we score goals look rather special!!!!!
     
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  15. Oldsparkey

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    You need to watch the other 90 minutes..........<laugh><laugh>
     
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  16. Oldsparkey

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    Anyway, I've heard Tan is in town and has offered Cardiff City to Donald Trump.

    Donald was said to be very interested, but wants to know if its' football club is included.
     
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  17. clingo

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    Excellent news.
    Look forward to a bit of renaming at the stadium and having The Trump End behind the goal. :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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    I doubt it'll go through. He wouldn't pass the fit and proper owner criteria - plenty of money but inciting a riot may go against him.
     
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  19. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    That will only happen when you have burgers from underneath the Canton End?

    A wind of change maybe.
     
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  20. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    As well as being one of the most absolute ar$e holes ever created.
     
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