I'm asking whether you think Labour's current election 'strategy' is a good one. What's their economic plan? Defence plan? Immigration policy? NHS? Policing? Abandoned regions round the country, what's the plan there? Plans for handling industrial action? Foreign policy?
What would you like to know? There is plenty information out there and Google is your friend. If you rely on the red tops for your information you get what they want you to know
Some reading for you https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Real-Change-Labour-Manifesto-2019.pdf https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf
ffs look for yourself there is plenty out there. Political parties only produce a manifesto at a General Election the last one was 2019 so that is the current manifesto. If you really want to educate yourself on current politics, watch a bit of Parliament, it's live every weekday on it's own channel, but I suspect your views are entrenched in ignorance so anything posted will not be good enough.
There's the point - most people don't have the luxury of being able to sit and watch BBC parliament. Labour have got to get their message out there to people who maybe watch ten minutes of news a day. They've got to have a message that's something other than 'we hate tories'. Frisbeeing a manifesto from three years ago at people and telling them to educate themselves is exactly the kind of sneering condescension Labour have cornered the market in over the past twelve years.
I didn't realise Labour had already posted the manifesto on here, I must have wasted my time "Most people don't have the luxury of being able to sit and watch BBC parliament" Most people who are ignorant of the facts would do a bit of research before pontificating on something they know nothing about. You are obviously on a wind up so I will leave you to get on with it
Desperately trying to undermine Labour appears to be the new strategy, so abject are their own party.
I dont even know what being Tory means anymore. Labour seems even more identiless to me. Everyone seems to think the centre ground is where parties thrive. It is what got Blair his big wins. The current Labour party are under criticism over who they are allowing to stand before the party membership gets a say, the argument seemingly they are trying to limit the left. There seems to be a *** paper between the policies of the parties to be honest, maybe the only real alternative is Liberal these days, if we really want something different. I dont know really, the whole thing is frankly depressing but seeing you called a Tory for asking for Labour to be better is odd, in my opinion at least.
This for me, he's becoming a broken record, spouting anti Labour drivel without researching the facts. Hoping if he repeats it so many times, people will believe his take on events.
Can you answer those questions for the current Government? You purport to be fully informed so let's hear it without the usual deflection and avoidance ... ... I'd especially like to hear what's actually happening with the long abandoned regions.
Mate, I really like you as a poster. Always enjoy your posts. I am not sure you are right here though. Just an opinion. If Labours only job is to produce a manifesto at election time, and provide constructive criticism of the govt then that seems very odd. If it is true they are failing in my opinion. If it is true we really do need change. I posted earlier that a labour MP gets paid the same by the taxpayer as those in the elected government. I appreciate salary isnt everything, but on that basis surely they need to a bit more accountable. As taxpayers we should have an expectation of them contributing to the success of our country in my opinion, or why do we fund them. I thought during the pandemic Starmer and co showed how to be an effective opposition. In times of national crisis they came together well, a good balance of challenge and support. Now we are back to bickering and really unintelligent arguments in my opinion. Take another look at it. If Labour really dont have to say anything until a manifesto why do they put people into the public domain to talk policy? Did you see Cooper last weekend with Kuensberg. It was a horror show from her on immigration. I thought Kuensberg was going cry in frustration. Cooper did what all politicians do - refused to answer a question. But she then meandered off into a really incoherent statement. She said Labour would look at immigration in context. Her example was Labour would stop immigrating so many nurses because they would train more in this country. On the face of it not so bad, although NHS bosses may worry. But when you take into account the current known policy of Labour is to scrap tuition fees it is a bit worrying. I believe nurses need a degree? Scrapping tuition fees would cost us £10bn per year. More if this policy is a sign of what is coming. So Cooper sitting there, stating such a specific policy, is all good - but they must tell us how it is being afforded, and not expect us to wait for a manifesto. Without it they are open to scrutiny in my opinion. It is the same when the Labour party state they will renogiate the Belfast regulation. They need to explain why the EU would want to do that otherwise it appears to be a fantasy. I dont mean to be argumentative, I just think we cant keep letting the opposition party a free pass. They are putting forward policy, and are floating ideas, they are not waiting for a manifesto, but there seems to be very little scrutiny of them right now. Without that scrutiny we cant improve the next goverment in my opinion. I honestly think we are goosed as a country because our two major political parties are so hopeless, and our political system is fundamentally broken. I honestly worry for my kids...
Great honest post marra and I'm not sure on what Labour are meant to do when in opposition. They have proposed a few things which the tories have pinched, all they can do is scrutinise and point out the tory errors (checks and balances). Starmer has put Labour on an election footing so they must be getting ready. The broken record boring tory is using deflection to try and keep the discussions away from the mess this government has inflicted upon us, which unfortunately the working class will have to pay for for years to come.
I think having policies pinched is something Labour should shout about. Windfall tax is one. They seem to miss a trick though. Starmer keeps saying we support a windfall tax. If he says the tories have pinched our windfall tax but we would double it I would get right behind that. The tories probably pay better spin doctors to be fair, something they pinched from Labour. I am a true floating voter. I was brought up in a Labour community, as real working class. I still consider myself working class. Now though, I dont see the Labour party I want. I really hope they can be it again, I would love to feel that affiliation again to a political party. I just worry we are beyond repair, politics generally. It is maddening to think, after all the rubbish served up by the conservatives in the last couple of years, I still worry they wont be beaten.
It is difficult for the opposition to make any impact in parliament at the moment FellTop, because the government have a 60 seat majority and can basically force through any legislation that they want. Midterm media work and the ideas presented by opposition politicians is either holding the government to account or electioneering so if you don’t like what they say you don’t have to vote for them, but it's unfair to say they have no plans or ideas and then criticise the ideas and plans they do express.
