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Match Day Thread Liverpool v Napoli

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  1. Milk..

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    Or the EPL, European Premier League.
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    We could have a breakaway league where we all breakaway from the current authorities who are ruining running things and start again with fairer set ups. Get back to the game we all loved before the corruption set in.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Sunday league in other words.

    Was it ever "fair"?

    As in who was exploited in the early decades of pro football, who made money etc etc.

    It's so far from a weekend outing for lads as an entertainment form now that match going fans are actually ignored or priced out in favour of rich people on trips.
     
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    For someone like me remembering back to the game of the 60's, yes it was fair or fairer, if you like, because you could never legislate for how wealthy an owner had to be to be excluded from ownership or put a cap on transfers.

    It was always going one way but the corruption that ensued should never have been allowed to happen. How it could have been stopped is another question. Greed took over from mere ambition and it's been the downfall of the sport.
     
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    by the same token those same owners treated us worse than animals who at least had some authorities trying to protect them unlike us .
     
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    True.

    Just to be clear, I wasn't saying I want the game to go back to what it was with all that entailed ( fan safety and conditions and quality of pitches etc. etc.) I was more saying that I'd like to see the game with no corruption and allowing states to own clubs etc. The breakaway idea was a money making scheme. What about a collective 'fairer run business' scheme where all clubs have a more equal chance of winning. Fans would get behind that.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The premier league was a money making scheme too.

    The scheming goes back 40 years at this point.
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Feel like easy FFP answer is to say clubs can only spend X amount on transfers and salaries each year no matter who you are.

    Means city and Brentford can only spend the same £100m each year on new players. That way you can have the richest owners in world but makes no difference.

    The amount would obviously have to be worked out (maybe linked to the guaranteed tv money clubs get so all know they’re gonna get that amount)
     
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    They pay bonuses or the agents instead
     
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    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Obviously needs to be more thorough and restrictions in place.
     
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    The problem with FFP, make it too restrictive and the money just goes to Spain or Italy instead and they become the financial powerhouses again. Make it UEFA wide and suddenly Europe stops being the top dog and the major leagues end up being Asian or somewhere in the Americas and all the top talent goes there instead.

    Really need FFP to be global if you're going to do something like salary caps or transfer spending caps AND it needs to be enforced. I suspect that's why UEFA doesn't enforce FFP properly and why it's not egalitarian, they like being the big organization and don't want to see South America take over as big dogs.
     
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    Or form a European Super League :bandit:
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    European elites league.

    leave the grass roots clubs like Southampton and spurs to play only English, scots and Welsh players who ae not good enough to merit elite money with these clubs and then all their fans who talk about football being ruined and stolen can be happy with footy for a fiver at 3pm on a Saturday and wear flat caps and drink warm bitter.

    please do not only white males are allowed attend.... like millwall.
     
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    Heaven.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    For a racist... sure.

    For the rest of us, we'll have the 3pm but let's not be throwing bananas at players and chanting gomophobic slurs at them.
     
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  17. Solid Air 2

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    bit of a jump to label anyone who feels football has turned its back on its traditional fanbase as racist since that includes a large chunk of posters on this forum .
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yes :) yes it is ;)

    But the amount of people I see on the interwebs saying one thing and really meaning they hate anyone who's not exactly like them and their mates from when they grew up and they are not welcome.

    Aka.... throw abuse at seeing women and kids, "out of towners" and so forth and so on.

    Same types I have seen then go on about brexit and would not be adverse to trhwping a few Hillsborough slurs in etc.
     
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  19. Solid Air 2

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    really don't see the connection tbh
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well.... there's a strong empirical basis for it from the types I've seen discussing how evil the super leavue is and blah blah blah.

    It usually ends up in football for the lads and keep the rest out of our way so we can have a booze up and fight.
     
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