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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We've now had Johnson, Sunak, Cummins, etc, ignoring Covid rules then Hancock smashing them. Then Braverman resigns on principle but doing a U-Turn when it suited. Now another prospective PM, already on six points, deciding he's above the law.

    I don't expect that much from politicians but I don't like them laughing behind our backs.
     
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    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

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    Just as well, because you aren’t going to get anything.
     
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    polyphemus Well-Known Member

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    My odd sense of humour requires that I look for a silver lining in the blackest of stories.

    For these sorts of tales, I see the good news is that we all know about their hypocrisy.

    In the not-so-distant past, these people were held in such high respect and the Press was so gutless, these relatively small misdemeanours would be kept well away from the peasants.

    The days of respecting our 'betters' may not be completely gone, but they are on the way out.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Most of the people I know are respectable, law abiding and compassionate towards others ...

    ... the current crop of politicians don't seem to possess any of those qualities.
     
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  6. COYCS

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    I despise the lot of them which make future voting a difficult, take a past government's Justice Secretary, caught several times speeding while in office.
    Twice on the M4 motorway over 100 mph rounded down to 99mph with children on board.

    This person has be selected to Chair person for upcoming inquiry into Bonko Boris party gate. Complete hypocrisy.

    With a bit of luck they both go too prison.
     
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    Just trying to understand todays PMQs. I think I saw it summed up like this.

    Q As you have admitted the asylum system is broken , you have been in power for 12 years , did you break it?

    A No Labour did by voting against the policies we put n the statute book.

    Q So you are saying that by voting against the policies you brought in, which you admit have failed Labour is responsible for your failure?

    A But Corbyn.

    Stramer must think all of his Christmases have come at once. A very clever barrister up against a para legal.
     
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  8. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Nailed it.

    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
     
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  9. FellTop

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    Good to see Starmer being told by his own party he needs to focus on clearly defining how Labour will meet the challenges the country faces. Lets see if he has the vision that has been sadly missing to date. Fingers crossed, but I wont be holding my breath I am afraid. More of what Cooper served up last weekend is on the menu I suspect.
     
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  10. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    Being unwilling to offer any kind of plan other than sweeping generalisations will be their undoing come election time. They have to be seen to be developing policy.
     
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  11. FellTop

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    I am sure they will, of sorts. Whether it is coherent, appropriate and relevant will be the challenge. As will it be for the tories. I am what is classed as a floating voter, albeit with an inherent leaning toward Labour. I will cast my vote, when the time comes, for the manifesto I best think serves our country, and my local community. All I hope is I am not voting for the least worst, but I suspect that is exactly what I will be offered by this current crop of political parties.
     
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  12. The Exile II

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    I'm lucky in that I just vote for whoever's most likely to unseat the SNP candidate. It means I'm not ideologically bound to any party, although my natural inclination is towards Labour. Not the current ****show though. When it was the party for working people.
     
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  13. Blond Bombshell

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    You are coming across tory marra, repeating something you've been told so many times is incorrect, hoping people will believe you are correct.

    I'll refer you to montys reply to you earlier...

     
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    Then the tories will continue with the 'no plan' mantra and enough people will believe it. Look at what happened in 2017 - in any other election May would have been battered, but Labour looked such a shambles people didn't trust them and they couldn't get their base out. The same will happen again if they don't start producing policies as an alternative.

    In 97 Labour had been battering the tories over the head with better policies and a positive message about themselves rather than exclusively whingeing about evil tories for at least a year.

    Calling me a tory isn't the trump card you seem to think it is.
     
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  15. DH4

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  16. Smug in Boots

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    To be fair they've only been in power for twelve years, given time I'm sure they'll come up with something before the next election.

    I'd expect the various opposition parties will have their own plans as well.
     
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  17. DH4

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    Though to be fair to Liz Truss, it only took her a couple of weeks to create a £60 billion black hole in the economy <laugh>
     
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  18. The Exile II

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    And Labour have been out of power for twelve years. At some point they'll realise that wailing about tories doesn't win elections.

    We can do a little experiment - watch Labour on the television today and tell me how many times they talk about what they would do, how many times they dodge the question and how many times they say the word 'tory'.
     
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  19. Prehab26

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    Labour have been forthcoming with lots. Seems you close your ears when they speak. They suggest so much and often, the Tories revolt, it all goes to **** and then they u turn and use labour policy/idea.

    Engery crisis help
    Windfall tax
    Reversal of banker bonus
    Reversal on top rate tax
    Rewanda where 0 have been deported at a cost of hundreds of millions

    These are just off the top of my head.

    You're either very selective in what you want to here or using the anti labour remarks to simply further your Tory beliefs which are clearly there.

    To say labour are just wailing is nonsense as shown above.
     
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  20. The Exile II

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    You have to look past the first statement. Observe -

    I'd help people more during the energy crisis. How? Don't know.
    I'd change the windfall tax. How? Not telling you.
    I'd have a different strategy to Rwanda. What is it? I'll reveal that when it's the right time.

    Vote for me, I'm telling you everything you want to hear. No idea how to implement it like, but vote for me.

    The Tories stealing Labour's policies isn't something to be feared - every one they steal is an opportunity.
     
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