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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by THE EXCLUSIVE 10%, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

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    Zidane was assistant at real madrid, a coach, a sporting director
    then managed real madrid b team for over 60 games before becoming real madrid manager

    plus it's zidane
    legend beyond belief
     
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  2. Kalman

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    City fans have a really weird obsession with former players, especially when it comes to wanting them part of the coaching staff. No ****ing way are the likes of Barmby or Windass qualified or competent enough to be part of our coaching staff but it gets brought up on here and the fan group on Facebook regularly. I would say Dawson has done rather well but the job is too big for him full-time. Likewise, Rosenior is no more qualified than Dawson for the number 1 spot.
     
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  3. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    They're both UEFA pro qualified which means they're both qualified to manage in the premier league. I'm sure I recall that Phil Brown only had his A License when we got promoted and needed dispensation from the PL when we went up - but I may be mis-remembering.
     
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  4. Howdentiger2

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    Well said
     
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  5. willyfog

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    Many hands….
     
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  6. Jim the Tiger

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    I have seen the same for Ashbee. They are living in a fantasy world. To be fair the same is done at other clubs, only last week I spoke to a Southampton fan who would like to see Ali Dia given a chance to improve their fortunes.
     
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  7. Kalman

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    If that were true in football, as in any other line of work, interviewers wouldn’t bother looking at CVs and asking about prior experience when offering a job.

    Some appointments are more of a gamble than others. Rosenior is more of a gamble than a proven Championship manager and a non-league coach from the 7th tier in the pyramid would be more of a gamble than Rosenior. I’m sure you’d have your own reservations if we hired Brid Town’s head coach so it’s natural some of us have our reservations about Rosenior.
     
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  8. bradymk2

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    he's clearly taking the piss there
     
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  9. Jim the Tiger

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    Why would you think that? The guy is George Weah's cousin, imagine the knowledge he has.
     
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  10. bradymk2

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    no politics ta
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    <laugh>
     
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  12. Kalman

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    You’re taking my use of ‘qualified’ a bit too literally there. Any serving member of the armed forces can apply to join the SAS or SBS but not everyone will pass special forces training. Likewise, having a UEFA pro license means you can coach in the Premier League but doesn’t mean you’re good enough to coach Man City or Liverpool.
     
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  13. Mckechnie Orange

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    No ones saying we haven't gone through a full process to assess the options, but even when that is done there is still an element of chance. Tell WBA and Villa that Bruce and Wilder weren't proven yet still proved to be the wrong appointment. Parker at Fulham and Bournemouth also.

    Whereas Cooper at Forest, Critchley at Blackpool the bloke at Luton all relative gambles in comparison.

    Football is a small community and people in the game know what Liams contribution was at Derby. It's not a secret that Rooney would have been paid off when the **** hit the fan but they couldn't afford to and he was more the figurehead with Rosie being the brains of the operation - that's according to a Derby obsessed pal of mine anyway and he's usually not far off the money where they are concerned.

    Have an open mind he might surprise you. If not you'll get a big fat 'told you so' and Daws will be back in charge sooner rather than later anyway.
     
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  14. willyfog

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    I think Rosenior is an interesting choice and not one I would have thought Acun would originally have gone for.

    However, when you read Roseniors glowing report on Graham Potters approach you can see the direction he will want to take us in.

    He will be more about developing people, taking an interest in their lives away from football and ensuring they become part of a family on and off the pitch. He will want them to feel connected to each other and the community they represent. This is what he admired about Potter when he was in Sweden.

    When you read this in Rosenior’s words you see how it all fits in seamlessly with Acun’s ‘One Family, One Dream’.

    We will see (if he’s appointed) how this plays out on the pitch but his ideology definitely matches our owners.

    I think it’s an exciting appointment in terms of a new approach. Far better than going down the route of many ‘old school’ managers who think a teams success starts and ends only on the field of play.
     
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  15. Kalman

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    Cooper managed Swansea for two years and got them in the play-offs in both of those seasons. That appointment by Forest is nowhere near comparable to us potentially appointing Rosenior. Critchley joined Blackpool in League One and Jones joined Luton in League Two with a brief stint at Stoke before going back to Luton. Again, not comparable.
     
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  16. Mckechnie Orange

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    You can always find a reason to say not comparable - but there is a reason Rosie was down to the last 2 for the WBA job.

    Most of the wish list of qualities some city fans seem to want wouldn't have applied to Potter at a Brighton. That didn't go too badly.
     
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  17. Mckechnie Orange

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    Doesn't the Pro license mean they have actually passed their training? Take your point about man City or Liverpool but they really are an extreme example of the elite of the elite.
     
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  18. Cityzen

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    Remember a few years ago an article about who you would rather have coaching your kids, Dalglish, Keegan or Bassett? Bassett had his coaching badges, Dalglish and Keegan didn’t.
     
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  19. Mckechnie Orange

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    A few years ago? Try 30 when they were all managing.

    I'm sure Major Buckley didn't have his pro license either but it isn't the 20th century anymore.
     
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  20. bradymk2

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    Pro licence course costs 10 grand
     
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