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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 27th October)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Oct 27, 2022.

  1. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Could be anyone of the Bielsa old guard who raved about how fit they had become (which was necessary for his system)

    Those who previously played under Marsch know his training methods so assume it’s perfectly normal to be just passably fit. But Marsch’s system requires Bielsa level fitness.
     
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  2. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    And a board who won’t support
     
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  3. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    Yes but have you seen the kits.
     
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  4. ristac

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    Aaronson, Adams, Sinisterra, Roca, Gnonto, Kristensen, Gyabi, Perkins admittedly some not ready but spending £99m on players I’d say Jesse was supported
     
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  5. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    So one who is not used regular is my guess.
     
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  6. Gessa

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    Frustrated at training and style of play rather than game time.
     
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  7. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    Should have forced Bielsa to have more players. He liked his little squad and we did not add enough players and no quality. The owner needed to keep the progress but he failed.
     
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  8. ristac

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    One thing I don’t understand, if a player thinks he’s not training hard enough or he could be fitter, do an extra session or go for an extra run. Surely the players need to take a bit of responsibility themselves if they’re not as fit as they could be
     
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  9. wakeybreakyheart

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    Was my second guess <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  10. wakeybreakyheart

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    Too late someone needed to be brutal and assess the squad first seasin back in the prem.
     
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  11. ellandback

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    Fits nicely into todays breakfast debate
     
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  12. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    My next read after breakfast.
     
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  13. NostradEmus

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    . ....sold over 100 million in Phillips and Raphinha.
     
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  14. ristac

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    True but that happens to every team, players get sold. Many clubs in the bottom half would have given the coach half the received funds, at least Jesse was given the entire amount received. Two players out, five first team players signed. I agree there is an argument could Radz have funded more, could Orta have done better, I just don't think there is an argument for Jesse being supported, he has been
     
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  15. Leedsoflondon

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    Has to be Jack Harrison. He’s being interviewed on the Jim White show on talkSPORT later, I’ll try and listen in. Plenty of Leeds fans called into the breakfast show saying JM needs to go.
     
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  16. milkyboy

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    I’m genuinely perplexed by the fitness element. Obviously the direct comparison the players have is bielsa - whose regime was brutal. But historically marsch’s team have been fit… they have to be to play high press. Maybe all teams are incredibly fit in the Prem.. and marsch’ levels just don’t differentiate enough for his game plan. Whichever, first time I’ve heard a player complain about the training not being hard enough <laugh>

    Can tell you for a fact that they appreciated everything that bielsa did for their careers and results, but they hated the boot camp training/nutrition regime.
     
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  17. NostradEmus

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    Won't be able to listen to that so if possible could you give us a recap please bud.
     
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  18. Leedsoflondon

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    Will do if I catch it <ok>
     
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  19. Doc

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    Maybe it’s just because the team are not playing Marschball as they played for him before (Aaronson, Kristensen and Adams) and the rest were told last season how they were going to play this season. Everything looks alien simply because Marschball doesn’t work so Marsch has changed it. I cannot think of any other reason why everyone looks lost
     
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  20. Aski

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    That was my first thought when I read Gessa's post early this morning
     
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