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MARSCH OUT

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by OLOF, Oct 23, 2022.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Nor was it at weekend or last season when getting tonked 5 and 6 nil in fairness Eric
     
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  2. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    I agree but there was always a chance that something exciting or spectacular might occur, you know a bit like Ireland beating England at cricket, it couldn't possibly happen could it?
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Or at ladies World Cup in your place <ok> Thing is, we have ability to produce a few good performance but unfortunately mainly lose them too. If we want to survive in PL and Im not sold on the idea totally, we might have to just learn to win ugly given the level of the current squad
     
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  4. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    I suspect I was being too obtuse with the cricket reference. Ireland has just beaten England at the cricket World Cup
     
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  5. wakeybreakyheart

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    Ugly will do me
     
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  6. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    So I've heard and when it's impossible to say that Matt's had worse there is always you.
     
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  7. Jammy 07

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    Aren't some of us being a bit precious over the style of play ?

    The Leeds United way when successful has always been a mixture of silk & steel.
     
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  8. Leedsoflondon

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    Has anything concrete happened that has instigated a debate about Dyche or is it still just a Twitter rumour? By that I mean has any reputable source reported it?
     
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  9. Eireleeds1

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    Just popped up on the sport here a few minutes after your comment. Cricket wouldn't be big news here for most, Beating England, now that's a different thing <laugh>
     
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  10. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    I'll agree with that I just don't want steel and wood.
     
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  11. milkyboy

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    any port in a storm for wakey
     
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  12. milkyboy

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    I think he can legitmately put leipzig down to a playing style that didn't suit the players, so it was going to need buy in from above and a change of playing staff, for it to work. This will be much tougher to pass off... given the time and the transfer window. It will also be back to back failures. Minor European league or back to the states, most probably.
     
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  13. wakeybreakyheart

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    yes olof and jammy
     
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  14. The-Don

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    Well and truly out…tactics are abysmal

    we pass it well but do absolutely nothing else
     
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  15. wakeybreakyheart

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    Grimsby
     
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  16. milkyboy

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    Bielsa is a genius and his style of play led to regular and dramatic exposure of the defence in transition.

    It's a turkey shoot on Marsch at the moment, and I get why, but he isn't actually the complete idiot currently portrayed, his tactics did work ok at Salzburg in Europe (watch minamino and hwang rip liverpool apart at anfield, playing narrow) and everybody included him knows what the weaknesses of it are - he's done seminars on his formula, so no one needs to research too hard. The downside for me is primarily, much like bielsaball, that its imperative everyone does their job for it to work. Frankly with 11 footballers, the likelihood is that at least 1 of them won't at some point.

    So the weakness isn't just that we leave the defence exposed to quick transitions. The theory if you read into it, is you accept if the press is beaten you are conceding the wide spaces, because at somepoint the ball has to come into the middle to score and you should have enough players there to deal with it - most of the time. But you see a lot of goals conceded where there are plenty of defenders in the middle, and a quality wide man still picks out the attacker - especially if the defenders don't appear to be marking anyone in as in our case <laugh>. Maybe the main weakness though is having a system that requires 11 footballers to remember what they're supposed to do for a full 90 minutes, when most of them can't remember what they had for breakfast... or maybe it just needs better players.

    As you say, considering the strategy is there on powerpoint for anyone who wants to replicate it, the finest coaching talent in world football don't appear to have fallen over themselves to try it. <laugh>

    Confidence is shot now, but prior to leicester which was a sh*t game and really should have been a 0-0. We lost games we could/should have won or drawn - due to individual f*ck ups rather than a terrible formation or strategy.
     
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  17. milkyboy

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    the fishier the port, the better?
     
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  18. Jammy 07

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    Definitely back to the States for Jesse.

    His tactics will work perfectly with a young energetic team...I'm thinking U9's or maybe even womens football as they like to talk a lot.
     
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  19. Eireleeds1

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    A rumour he’s said his goodbyes at
    Thorpe
    Arch. Could
    Be a load of bull
    Of
    Course
     
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  20. milkyboy

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    prejudice and sexism in one brief post jamster - you've been on this board too long.
     
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