Dermot Gallagher said that Rodri one was a clear handball and penalty. I don't know how it could be dismissed, it's blatant. Referee Tierney, VAR Kavanagh - don't tell me there isn't a bias against us by some of the officials. As others have said, the referees need to explain their decisions after the game. And what happened to them being demoted to the lower league for a week for clearly wrong decisions.
My only issue with getting rid of VAR is that you lose the remote chance that it may give a decision in your favour and just one or two of those could make a massive difference. Conversely, the same decisions in favour of your opponents could also make a massive difference to you.
personally think some of the issues are referees are maybe less reluctant to give big decisions (handballs in the box, red cards) beaches they think var will correct them if wrong anyway. However it then goes to var and they use this ‘clear and obvious’ term which just makes it worse. Admittedly some of them are 50/50 and I think fine, stick with ref decision. But often it might be 75% saying it’s a red but as it’s not 100% obvious error, they leave it to the onfield ref decision, who has left it to var to make the decision, and in the end no one has bothered to make it! I guess this comes down to the conversations that refs are having with var. if they are communicating properly then shouldn’t have those issues. Ref should be saying, I didn’t see anything wrong, is there something I missed due to the angle I was at etc? Or I think it hit his chest rather than his arm which was out, did it hit his arm, if so I would have given a pen? Now if those conversations happen, then fair enough, but given we can’t hear it, it only adds to the confusion when certain things are given. hearing those conversations won’t change how many they get right/wrong in the moment. But at least fans will have an explanation, and refs know the rules more than we do. So if fans are all thinking well that’s an obvious error, at least hearing an explanation and how they came to it, might make you go, ok I don’t necessarily agree, but given what the ref saw abd what they’ve said, I can understand how they’ve maybe come to that conclusion and isn’t enough evidence to overturn the original decision.
No need to get rid, there is nothing wrong with VAR. The issue is the procedure and operators. How can it work so well in other sports but not football? There must be a solution.
I think consistency is key. Refs aren't perfect, onfield or on VAR but what infuriates fans is when the same ref goes one way in one game and another way in another game. You could maybe understand the differences from ref.to ref in interpretation but when the same referee actually referees games differently from one week to the next, you can't help but question bias.
I can't really see the point of this discussion, other than to vent a bit of frustration, of course. I've said all along it's subjective, and imo that's all there is to it. We're all experienced football watchers on here, but even we disagree frequently about the same incident - it's only human. Refs are mostly human too, and therefore subject to the same differences of opinion. If anyone would like to tell how they propose to eliminate that I'd be interested.
Looks like they've lost the heads. Conte sent to the stand Kane goal rule put late so still not through.
Ridiculous amount of time, big decision to make though. Commentators no idea on the rules again though; "it came off the defender"
An hour at least. The fun thin is that in theory spurs could finish 2dr, 2nd, 3rd in the group yet. I dont think that can be 4th though so even they can't go full spurs here.
It was better It was the correct call Could have had a team getting through falsely in the top club competition in the world It took a long time because a lot was at stake but they got the right call
Did they? I wasn't actually paying attention, btw - but there are a few claiming it was a controversial decision. If it was clear cut, why did it take so long?
Wonder if Barca's 'futures' sales took into account the loss in revenue of going out of the CL before Christmas?
British media claiming it's controversial because it's a British team. It was very close but the right call. The pundits in the studio were saying it was a gut wrenching end to the game. Rio responded with "only if you're a Spurs fan"
