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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Mrs Sunak is worth a mere £500m or so which is fine. Less fine when she tries to claim furlough money.
     
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  2. Willhoops

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    Col, bad timing sorry I didn’t mean you.
     
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  3. sb_73

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    First off I’d settle for not actively making things worse like the last iteration of this tired old bunch. Then the things that really matter to people - energy bills, inflation, mortgage costs - seem really hard for the government, or any government, to make a significant difference to in the short term. But we should look to the economic indicators at least looking a bit more positive, and keeping step with other similar countries.

    I think we can kiss goodbye to the policy stuff outside of the economy. Trying to sort out the NHS, social care, the benefits system, the fiasco of defence procurement, infrastructure projects…..the only question which will be asked of them and other spending functions will be ‘how much can you save? …..great, double it”.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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  5. Steelmonkey

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    Diesel sneakily gone up 10p a litre in the last week, buried under all the ****e in the news - Sunak can get started on the oil companies for me
     
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  6. Goldhawk-Road

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    Once over £5million or even less, the distinction doesn't matter does it? Both are hard working and successful men. Both came from lowly beginnings, and are intelligent, Sunak exceptionally so. Starmer worked as a criminal and human rights barrister, Sunak worked in finance.

    The reason Sunak is wealthier than Starmer is whom he married.

    What will Starmer argue? That the Sunaks can afford a more expensive Rolls Royce than the Starmers? More additional homes than the Starmers? A bigger selection of Rolexes than the Starmers have?

    We have two very wealthy families. One kettle cannot call the pot opposite black.
     
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  7. Steelmonkey

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    And neither can relate to the working man on the street, or the single mother on benefits, or those reliant on disability payments to put food on the table
     
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  8. Goldhawk-Road

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    That's exactly right.
     
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  9. sb_73

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    Sunak’s parents were a GP and a pharmacist, if that’s lowly I’m definitely serf material. He went to Winchester school. His own wealth, before the wife’s stuff, is estimated at £220m. Judging by his reaction when his wife was caught up in the non Dom stuff, which was pretty clear fury that his personal financial affairs could be discussed, it might be that Labour have sensed a weak spot and will go for it. Plus Starmer will probably be well prepped to discuss his own wealth. The point will be that with his skinny designer suits and £500 shoes, Sunak doesn’t get ordinary people.

    It’s all childish of course, but that’s what we have. No wonder cynicism around politics is through the roof.
     
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  10. Star of David Bardsley

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    I think there’s a pretty major distinction between £7m and £700m but what really matters is what Sunak does with his power. He famously boasted about changing Labour’s formula which diverted funds to the poorest parts of the country so I don’t have loads of faith in him.
     
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  11. Goldhawk-Road

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    Yes, fair point, he came from a comfortable home, his great grandparents up and coming Asians from Africa. But Starmer's problem if he attacks wealth, is that he is extremely wealthy too. If the public feel £70k annual salary for an MP is excessive, then you won't persuade them that a net worth of £7 million is close to the breadline. He's moving into hypocrisy territory.

    Sure as hell, Rishi will be shopping at Primark and Next now.
     
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  12. sb_73

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    In the kids section.
     
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  13. Goldhawk-Road

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    The distinction isn't important to a single mum using a food bank. They're both rich men.

    I agree about how he uses his power. That's what matters and what he'll rightly be judged on.
     
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  14. qprbeth

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    Every MP is "rich" compared to a single mum, who has a part time job, because she has a kid to look after and take to the food bankevery day to get food.

    They are rich compared to an average family, with a husband earning okay...but they can't decide if it is worthwhile the wife going out to earn because childcare costs are high.


    They are rich compared to a pensioner who has his state pension to live, eat and warm his house on.

    They are rich compared to an ordinary 20 year old on his first job, who wants to live away from mum...but just can't.


    Every MP is rich compared to those people.

    It not about money ...it is much more about how much an individual mp cares and does something about it
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    5’7” apparently. Think he was wearing platform shoes for that measurement.
     
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    LBC have now made "globalist" a banned word. Presumably any books on it must be burned.
     
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  17. Star of David Bardsley

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    Probably not but you’re well aware why they’d be uncomfortable with it.
     
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    We are top of the league if any of you lot noticed in this supposedly football related forum, but oh no same usual lot talking boring politics, well you can carry on boring the ****ing pants off each other & others who care to read the tripe
     
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  19. Star of David Bardsley

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    We were top of the league when you posted on this thread this morning.
     
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  20. Goldhawk-Road

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    I've never associated it with Jewish people. Global finance involves all creeds and colours. It's an incredibly broad term.
     
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