If she resigned that is a disgrace as that is a sackable offence as even as a minor civil servant that was a disciplinary offence up to sacking .
Yeah, it used to be in ye olden days but politics got so bad that its a shock she's resigned over such a trivial matter however apparently she laid into Truss in her letter of resignation to set up her leadership push as the favoured right wing puppet (which Truss is) The centrists in theory now hold the chancellor position despite the guy being an incompetent so they are going full on emergency, austerity, cuts etc The new home secretary Grant Shapps is another sunak supporter so that again says where that party's power has swung to and away from the right wing brexiteers. The problem is they are so far down the rabbit hole at this point there is no more compromise candidates. May was that. Johnson represented the implosion of the centre of that party with the brexit House votes. Truss winning was the last hurrah for the erg. Now we are witnessing another swing towards the centre as they flounder about looking for a strategy to stay in power.
Quite clearly forced to leave under a certain pretence. The rumoured unity cabinet appears to be gathering steam. Doesn't exactly make Truss look competent, or give her a purpose. Any pretence that she had any authority or own ideas is surely now gone.
Imagine you were a Tory MP and were competent, would you want to be elected PM at this stage to be in charge of a party full of muppets and knowing you will lose the next election to a Labour party headed by Starmer. Your career would never recover so why risk it. You would bide your time and hope to be elected in the future to head up the party at the following election.
Oh I dunno. If I were a competent tory the first thing I'd do is shoot myself but the second thing would be to realise I missed cos well... tory and competent??? As for the other... its always best to get in and start a war or something to create a legacy as there's no way those tories are going to the electorate before 2024. It'd be turkeys voting for Christmas. The pension for pm is higher than the pension for mi inter and you'll be in the in crowd for when king Charles the turd gets flushed etc. These people think that way. May's proudest moment was giving the queen a stroke.
That's why Truss may well stay as the figurehead to be sacrificed at the next election, but have no real say in the actual running of the government. Unless the ratings improve, then watch the in-fighting commence again.
I doubt it. They will not put up with her for 3 years. They are just going to see this winter out. I wouldn't want to run with the energy cap going up to 4500 next year. Let her absorb the hyper inflation. She will be out once someone finds the alternative.
Britain's conservative party has shifted way to the right of where it was when I was growing up. I don't remember them being as extreme as they were the last ten years or so. Maybe I'm just remembering through the innocent eyes of youth, but a lot of what I hear from Conservatives these days wouldn't sound out of place said by the Republicans over here. Tories used to be significantly to the left compared to America's right wing party. Now there seems to be a lot more overflow.
Rumours flying in west minister that the deputy pm frog marched a reluctant tory mp through the voting lobby to secure vote (snp allegation) And others that an mp who spoke against franking was surrounded by several senior Jack boots to force him through. (Labour say they have pics) Chief whip and deputy chief whip now supposedly sacked for making this stand on Labour vote
Thatcher was a bit early for me but I remember Major more clearly and he seemed (and seems) a world away from the current party, Kenneth Clarke as well. But then a lot of the more centrist Conservatives like Gauke and Rudd were culled by Boris over Brexit and more fringe attitudes like Patel, Rees-Mogg and Braverman have become more prominent. That element was always there, but there's been a definate shift to the right in the overall make-up of the party.
Some excellent logic from Nadine Dorries: "However, former culture secretary Nadine Dorries urged Walker to back Liz Truss because "he helped to put her where she is". "Much as I love Charles, he did call to have the most electorally successful Con PM in a generation removed. Actions have consequences that we can’t always control. "Having helped to remove Boris, he should now back Liz because as much as anyone, he helped to put her where she is," she said in a tweet." So voting to remove Johnson because you felt he wasn't fit for office per definition means you have to support Truss? Righto.
I was just a little kid for thatcher, but I do remember the poll tax and everyone refusing to pay. Even my Mum said she wasn't going to pay (whether she did or not, I can't say).
Lurched to the right in 1979 - never looked back. A bit softer under Major maybe, but it's all relative.
I would put it another way. The minority lunatic fringe rode johnson's coat tails to more power than they merited. Let's look at the past. Cameron. The pig skull ****ing school boy was hardly an extremist but was so afraid of a party split and the influence of the lunatic erg and also ukip he promised the brexit referendum if reelected.. public gave gim a slip majority so he delivers poll. Cameron resigns after the opportunistic boris makes all sorts of claims and drives a self publicity campaign and wins by accident. The conservatives appoint a compromise "safe" candidate in may. Remember vrois is dabbed in the back really early in campaigning by gove. The choice was gove or may May follows the softest brexit possible attitude but fears the lunatic erg so calls a stupid election early and loses Cameron small majority and ends up needing lunatic dup. Erg use lunatic DUP to force hard brexit and we end up in a madness session of parliament where.may loses all votes possible. Outcome is may gone and now there's no strong candidate left from the centre and for all the choices the ERG decide that Johnson is better than the hated cocaine head gove so back him. Johnson has enough to get home over hunt the no mark. Johnson vumbled through some votes, ****s up a while then calls election to get brexit done while also excluding many tories who didn't vote with party. Johnson wins landslide. Why? 3 words and people sick of antics of both parties but seem to blame Labour for the antics and flip flopping about. Johnson kills 46000 people in covide through ineptitude. Has a series of parties. Lies quite a bit, appoints a kiddie fiddler. Right at the outside the party that did for may, the dup are shafted by boris and their hardest of hard brexit border is convienetly forgotten in the deal Johnson strikes with eu. This deal is worse than May's deal but is boris' so has to be better. This leads to massive issues in ni and collapse of assembly there as the lunatic party continues to campaign for a hard Irish border. Johnson is eventually dismissed after 450 scandals. Mps choose between 5 or 6 horrid choices but end up with all the lunatics being promised jobs to get behind Truss. Sunak holds about half the part and mordant a nother chunk but once all the lunatics drop out the white liz Truss emerges. Turns is selected by about 80k white gammon as the Liberal anti monarch remained mp and former lib dem who turned arch royalist hard brexiteer to get power. She wins cos she is white and wore an outfit that looked like thatcher. Cos Truss is a moron she appoints all who supported her in key jobs and all are right wing lunatic who last 1 month. Overall I wouldn't say the whole.tory party shifted right. I would say the rump of the party that grabbed power in a vacuum are extreme right wing but are soon to be out totally. The chancellor and home secretary are now two portfolios that are basically going to try run the country with Truss stood in a corner The key question is who is the candidate that is acceptable to enough mps to beat a erg candidate to get to the husting and also popular enough to get the gammon backing. Truss is now there to absorb blame for all the **** that's about to happen. Hyper inflation, massive interest rates, swinging tory service cuts etc etc.
