Ivan Toney is the best penalty taker I’ve seen - 29 taken, none missed. Watches the keeper till the last second then places it in the opposite corner. Need nerves of steel for that though, which Bamford doesn’t have. He’s a choker. Not surprising he performed better and scored more goals when there were no crowds.
Toney, Lyle Taylor, jorginho… Raphinha… and our own Matty klich all have much better than average scoring records with variations on the ‘wait for the keeper to move’ concept. The problem is when you do miss (like klich) you look such a twat
Website I looked at only had the QPR miss. Nothing against millwall either scored or missed. So had to do a search and yep he missed one in the home game we won 3-2. Bielsa's first season.
hard to get reliable sources on a lot of stats. I had no idea who he’d missed against before I did a search… just had vague memories of him missing a couple. Klich took them for a while and raph and rod have taken them, and we went a ridiculously long time without getting one. So he hasn’t taken as baby as you might think.
I read this and thought yes that's exactly my own feeling when it comes to a main striker. However of course me being me, then has to go and look to see if the data agrees or disagrees with my way of thinking. Last season only 8 players scored more than 15 league goals. The average amount of goals scored by a clubs top goal scorer was 12.4. Average amount of goals scored by a clubs top 4 goal scorers was 31.5, so just going on last season, our attacking line up was bang average mid table 3 of those players played for Liverpool, and 2 of the other players played for Spurs. So that means only 5 clubs had a player score more than 15 league goals for them last season, these being Man City, Liverpool, Spurs, Scum and Leicester. Chelsea who finished third in the league, had a top scorer with just 11 goals. Their 4 top goal scorers scored between them 33 goals, 4 more goals than our own top 4 goal scorers managed. Brighton, Wolves and Newcastle who finished 9th, 10th and 11th never had any player score double figures, with Wolves top goal scorer only scoring 6 goals, whilst Brighton and Newcastle both hit the heady heights of 8 goals. For both Man City and Chelsea, their top 4 goal scorers contributed less goals than the rest of the squad. As I said, before I looked at the data ( and yes I've only looked at one season) I would have been of the same mind as Eire. However the data suggests, that having a goal scorer who is going to get you 15 goals a season, is a rare commodity and ain't going to be a cheap purchase and thus most likely going to be playing for one of the clubs towards the top of the table. Obviously it also helps that by being near the top of the table, you will likely create more chances, thus giving your striker more opportunity to score more goals. It seems more likely that you need your top 4 attacking players to score approx 50% of your goals, with the rest of the squad contributing the other 50%.
Yep good stuff aski. The haaland’s are the exception in the PL. with more sides Playing front 3s the expectation is the goals are shared around. I think the thing with bamford, is a consistently low goals:xg ratio (currently his xg is 3.5, but he’s scored 0) and the clear number of ‘big misses’ he has. Currently the highest in the PL despite the games he’s missed. He arguably does a lot of work to get into good positions to get the chances… just misses more of them than the top guys do. Guys who get more chances miss more chances (in total, not proportionately) so it’s no surprise he’s high up in the ‘big misses’ charts. So are Salah and haaland. But that first year in the Prem… when he scored plenty… he was also clear at the top of the big misses.
