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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    All well and good in time
    But in the middle of an economic crisis where electric cars are stupidly expensive, when and if you break down they send a diesel powered tow truck to rescue you and where the infrastructure doesn’t exist to support those who go down that road it’s all utterly pointless
    Plus electricity is creeping towards the price of petrol pro rata
    And that’s without the filthy process of extracting precious minerals from the earth and the 10-12 tons of carbon per car it takes to make a Tesla
    And talking of wasted energy it takes something like 3 gallons of fresh water to process a single Almond to make Almond milk
    So again, all the people who think dairy farming is killing the planet and that beef production and by products should be banned need to take a close look at how their chosen lifestyle is produced
     
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  2. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl: have broad shoulders ...

    Funny though having a bad time getting ready usually got a list and take far to much stuf with me .. packing up to come home others about an hour takes me 4 or 5!
    have waited till last minute to collate and source all I may need ... big error boiler on the blink ... took a couple hours ..... out of schedule. Wife has got a one of her regular sessions to do with the thing in her head so staying in bed .. painkillers dont touch it ... oh well could be worse Putrid might be telling fibs about attacking Ukraine with missile attacks etc ......... oh ***** he is
     
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  3. realred1952

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    When I lie in bed trying to go to sleep [ medication side effect ] I think about a lot of things "percentile" came to mind last night and used it in context with current affairs .. politics!
    Sort of dissected into "percentile" parliament and settled on 4 main boxes [ maybe 5 where you class each style and file ] I then was able to [ not mentioning any names ] do the same for off topic contributors on here ... and dropped off to sleep when part way doing the footballing side....
    Parliament one box was designated the serial hatchet MP's .... another, box 2 the lets get on with it's, appraising and adjusting to the facts ... repetitive moaners who dwell on past events, disruptive box 3 ..... box 4 .. never happies / backstabbers / sneakies

    off topic's well made out cases including myself [ part of past training was to do self assessments good or bad ] to fit just 2 box's .... box 2 and 3

    BCFC ...WELL didnt get far sort of started with boxes 2 3 4 [ 4 modifiedto never happies ]

    WHERE DOES PERCENTILE COME INTO IT?
    well Parliament box 1 I had as about 10% box 2 about35% box 3 ... 45% ... box 4 about 10%

    OFF TOPICS
    I settled on about 51% box 2 49% box 3

    TEA BREAK OVER!!! .. putting people into boxes could be quite a challenge, OK for smallish groups up to 1000 maybe a couple dozen or so possible ... but a lot of research would be needed and sample would be random in the main
     
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  4. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Basically, the Tories don’t always get it right - or wrong.
    Labour doesn’t always get it right - or wrong either.
    Refusing to vote for a party because of something they did a generation ago is silly. Parties evolve - not always for the good - but the Tory party - and the Labour Party - are both different from what they were under their predecessors
     
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  5. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    All of our parties in this Country are corrupt and are instructed by the elite ......it's the case of picking the best of a bad bunch imo...
     
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    Absolutely - although ‘best’ isn’t a word that really fits.
    ‘Least ****’ is a better fit <cheers>
     
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    Why do we vote blue, red, yellow or any other colour ?
    The 'mini' budget seems to prove that markets run the country.
     
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  8. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Moreover, what’s the point of the 6-7 weeks during the Summer which saw Tory members voting in a leadership runoff when the actual party may decide to change the leader at any time by moving the goalposts - that’s the 1922 Committee for you.
    Utterly pointless when those weeks actually doing some work on a financial strategy might have avoided this utter and humiliating joke of a situation
     
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    THE BLAME LIES WITH the percentile few who are hatchet men and backstabbers!!

    After this afternoons hour of "Q's" Jeremy Hunt gave his speech. In the Q's [ PENNY MORDAUNT ] you get to see the box 1 and 4 PERCENTILES coming to the fore! think maybe in parliament % 's box 1 = 15% 2 = 33% whilst 3 = 37% and 4 = 15%
    What was amazing how JH completely handled the shadow chancellors comments and finished off with a devastating annihilation .. through out most of her speech Sir KS and the deputy leader had stone faces and more so when JH GAVE HIS REPLY TO HER ................
    JH V KS AND .jpg
     
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  10. wizered

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    RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Not even Wallace and Gromit can save Tories now


    https://mol.im/a/11325507

    This article illustrates an interesting example of how many Tory-voting Brexiteers really believe that the international money markets and relationships with other trading nations shouldn’t matter. We should set our own budget and tax levels and to hell with those pesky foreigners who don’t like it.


    …… except that we import almost everything that we consume from those ‘pesky foreigners’ - in particular pesky EUROPEAN foreigners - and even most of what we DO produce here in this land is from foreign-owned factories - sold off over half a century of selling UK PLCs family silver - started by Thatcher - but continued by both Labour and Conservative governments alike since.
    The value of the pound really does matter - and it affects every single one of us.
     
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  12. realred1952

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    Well roll on November 1st when ENGLAND WILL BE UNDER MY FEET .. at least I shall go into media "non existence" bliss knowing the ship has steadied ... I might even come back to my portfolio showing a return to the day Putrid invaded but more hopeful of it being back to July at least .... rutting season in Scotland will be fantastic hearing the bellows echoing through the glen ...
    Be nice to see BCFC on 31 points .... and the new manager doing well ! [ 2 ways to look at that !]
     
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  13. Angelicnumber16

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    Who is Jeremy Hunt looking after ? The welfare of the British people or the global elite who seem to want the following
    A cashless society where governments can.control their citizens and know exactly where they spend their money
    A meat free diet replaced by nutritious insects
    High taxes
    Lockdowns at their say so
    Mandatory vaccines

    I also find it stupendously arrogant of Joe Biden, a man who makes gaffe after gaffe and who needs a tele prompter and cue cards to even answer basic questions, to feel the need to comment on the UK when America continues to print money (that’s going to end well !!) and who’s own government sat by and watched BLM and Antifa burn and loot cities. and where violent crime continues to increase and where senators and members of Congress are only interested in their own personal gains
     
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    It comes to something when some of us think the Tory’s have done well, when in fact all they’ve done is decided not to implement some of the ridiculous measures Truss had intended to introduce. Forgetting the impact, just the mere thought of them have done. It will take ages for the damage Truss did to be put right.

    There are people who are not now on the property ladder now, who would have been but for Truss, many others have seen their mortgages go up drastically, which will now not come back down despite JH’s intervention.

    Most of us on here are older, so have either no mortgage, or have not long left, so payments are likely to be reasonable low. I feel sorry for people with large mortgages who’ve been massively affected by Trussonomics. Or have had dreams of getting a mortgage dashed.

    JH thankfully has steadied the ship, but there is a long way to go, and many things yet to be decided, & I’m not as sure as Wiz, that the British public will easily forgive the Tory’s for this almighty bungle they’ve made, and the affects it will have on their future.

    The mini budget that’s still to go ahead at the end of this month is going to be very painful. The public services which are already on their knees, due to years of Tory austerity, is going to be asked to take even more cuts. Some of which, again will be as a direct result of Trussonomics.
     
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    I agree to a large degree.

    The uncomfortable truth for the Tories and stemming from Blairs ridiculous open borders brainstorm, is that aside from Covid, there are now simply too many people in this country, seeking too few understaffed services that were never designed to cater for nearly 70 million citizens.

    Everything was already stretched to, and beyond breaking point, and now it's failing badly.

    Whether that's Social Care, Education, the prison service, social and private housing, Hospitals, GP's, Dentists, Policing, Border Force, transport links and infrastructure.

    None of that was ever designed to cope with the nearly10m extra people we've seen arrive since 2000.

    Border Force have now officially told the Home Office that recent events at the Kent Reception Centres where violent assaults by migrants on our people, and illegals absconding from their hotels after a day or two to join criminal gangs and Cannabis Farms are a significant threat to national security.

    And what will be done about it ? Nothing. The same as always

    Boris talked big on illegals and delivered nothing. Priti Patel did the same. The French are laughing at us all the way to the bank for every few extra £100m we fling at them.

    If any Government in this country present or future want to control serious tax payer costs, in a system where our tax pounds are used by crafty lawyers acting against the will of the majority of the people, then they should nip this in the bud right now.

    There was international outrage at Truss and Kwartengs mini budget, but immigration is costing us upwards of £4bn of our own money that would be so much better spent on the people of this country who deserve it more.
    I'm not against genuine refugee women and children coming here, but we're now allowing all these Albanians in from an EU country to cause havoc.
    Where is the Government ?
     
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  16. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I actually think that interest rates have been far too low for too long.....people lived within their means and now with such quick rises it's created the problem......I think we have one of the lowest interest rates in Europe...I remember when we were paying near 15%....great when it comes down, not so good when they start low.. IMO..
     
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    Don’t disagree with you, the trouble as you say is when the go up quickly and unexpectedly, yes I remember when they went up to 15%, I’d just sold and moved up, almost lost everything, it’s why I’m so sympathetic to those affected by Trusses decision.
     
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    I'm not so sure that the interest rise was solely down to Truss, they were on the rise anyway (had to).....but how steeply in such a short space of time, was down to that stupid mini budget.....and the banks having a panic.......I think they could have been a bit more cautious with the profits they make..
     
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    I can't understand why top earners tax cut has been cancelled, ordinary tax payer have had their 1% tax cut postponed but big time bankers bonuses are going ahead, if we have got a black hole on our debt sting them.
     
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    Typical Tory’s <whistle>
     
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