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Let’s see how much of this is delivered today. I fear I’m wrong about the stamp duty changes, they will go again (costing me a couple of grand in the process as I’m in the midst of moving house. Ho hum), and the NI changes might survive, for today at least. But as Hunt is promising to cut spending and raise taxes but not call it ‘austerity’, could be the only thing left standing is the support for energy bills.
£ up a bit and government borrowing rates down, so the all seeing all knowing markets look to have ‘priced in’ whatever is announced.
Looks like Hunt is now PM de facto, unsackable.
I think this is right - will be interesting to see if it calms the backbenchers enough.
PS - Our constitution is uncodified rather than unwritten. Doesn't change your underlying message, that it's messy, but it's mostly written down somewhere.
Fair enough, it’s a shame we are saddled with an arcane and centuries old way of doing business, but that’s what’s sovereignty’s all about, or so I’m told.
Bailey has trailed a chunky interest rate rise, so perhaps something will have to be done to shore up the housing market. I just wish they’d pass the rise on to savers.
Unsackable so long as Truss is PM. But I don't see her lasting long. Sunak coming in, is my best bet, even though he will be unpopular among some of the Johnson/Truss camp.
Does it matter if the Truss/Johnson camp feel it’s unpopular? Their choices and judgement have proved highly questionable (in my world it’s called a f#*& up of gigantic proportions and should have them all slinking away with their tails between their legs) - they had their chances, they got it wrong, move back fools.
There’s a way back for Johnson in all this crap. Bet he is their strongest candidate with the electorate and these dicks will do anything to save their skin.
Though he might prefer to continue earning a lot more money waffling to idiots at conferences.
Some of them, like Braverman and Badenoch, might well be subsumed into a Sunak cabinet. Of course, the Nadine Dorries types will bleat on about the lack of democracy, but I agree with you, who cares?
Nah, they'd milk the attention...
This is like a mini coup.
The electorate never voted for Truss.
And the Tory membership never voted for Hunt and this complete change of direction.
And he has taken away the energy support from April..
Let's hope the war ends before then ( for many reasons)
The electorate never voted for Truss.
And the Tory membership never voted for Hunt and this complete change of direction.
And he has taken away the energy support from April..
Let's hope the war ends before then ( for many reasons)
Frankly, the most honourable thing la Truss could do now is resign saying she was disappointed that she didn’t get the support of her fellow MPs or the market for doing what she said she’d do, and admit she got the execution of it totally wrong. She should close by declaring the Conservative Party unfit to govern in its present form (at least) and recommend a General Election.
Her fellow Tory MPs, of course, won’t agree, but such things usually snowball from there.
Do I want a Labour government? Do I hell. But this is excruciating.
Her fellow Tory MPs, of course, won’t agree, but such things usually snowball from there.
Do I want a Labour government? Do I hell. But this is excruciating.
I wouldn't get too carried away with the language - coup etc. I'm happy to stand corrected, but since WW2 only Heath and Attlee won a General Election and were booted out at a subsequent election. Typically PMs have come to power outside of an election, or stepped down before an election. It's a mess, but it's no coup.
I mean a coup by Hunt on Truss.
He's come in and taken over.
She is a puppet leader...
The strings are being pulled by Hunt ( and the people behind him)
Truss's economic trickle down plan has gone
Boris's levelling up plan has gone
Every ethos and plan voted on by the electorate (Boris levelling up) and by the Tory membership (Truss's growth plan).
Has gone...this is a coup.
How long will Truss be a puppet
Have we had three PMs in one parliament before?
Agree she should do the honourable thing and resign - but not until the Tory grandees have found a replacement.
I'd say the chance of a GE is for the birds. No one they bring in now can be as bad as Truss has been. They have two years or so to try to regain some confidence from the public. In that time, Labour are more than capable of shooting themselves in both feet, several times over.
I’d argue that Johnson shot himself in the foot more spectacularly than Truss.