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Match Day Thread Saintsy Saints Vs The Spam - Sunday 16th October - 2pm

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Lambertissier, Oct 11, 2022.

  1. garysfc

    garysfc Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I’m ecstatic; I got a response <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
     
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  2. LincolnSaint

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    Yeah I'm giving it a swerve. Not sitting in hours worth of road works to watch another tepid boring performance. I can watch us lose 2-0 on match of the day and save the petrol money
     
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  3. Gregm1988

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    Which is behind schedule - something that I wish I was surprised about but am not. It had been far too quiet on him for it to be this week’s game (which initial time estimates had him potentially back for)
     
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  4. Osvaldorama

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    I get the positive attitude. Likewise my life outside of football is great too and I see the benefits positivity in every day life.

    But my hobby and club that I love is saints. I want the best for us. And to see us as whipping boys every week, making terrible decisions with player contracts, not knowing our first XI and playing awful football.. it’s ****e.

    At the end of the day, we are a premier league club. We have been a premier league club for a long time now. And we have gone backwards massively over the last 4/5 years even with all of the riches that entails.

    As fans, we are a very patient bunch. We have put up with ****ing loads - being a stepping stone, selling key players, losing 9-0 multiple times. All of us want Ralph to succeed. All we really want is a some exciting games, bring through some youth talent and maybe a cup run. But the performances are not good enough. Not by a long shot. Not for a long time.

    Then we get Adam Blackmore telling us we are unappreciative and Semmens telling us we are “lucky to be in the league”. Utter bollocks. We are a premier league ****ing side. We have been for decades minus a small blip. And we need to start actually playing & competing like it. It starts with the manager.

    This identity-less, awful, negative football has to change. Since pre season Ralph has made some ****ing mental decisions. We will see if that continues
     
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  5. timatoketchup

    timatoketchup Well-Known Member

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    Wise words mate, sometimes (pretty much always) I let the results dictate my mood and it shouldn't. It's just football and whatever happens, happens. A few wins and we will fly up the table.
    Ralph may not be the answer but if he gets the sack at least I can get rid of the tragic and itchy Xmas jumper the wife kindly bought me.
     
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  6. garysfc

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    Well said! I agree with much you write. There’s a lot to being positive & half glass full. I often use myself. BUT realism HAS to play a part. Looking through severely rose tinted glasses helps no one & actually festers more problems. Many, even the “tarred anti RH” on here, have said many times, me included, they/we want Ralph to succeed. Is Sunday his last “get out of jail” card? Who the knows? Only SR can answer that? Unfortunately, regardless of what stat you look at, we are looking at a gun barrel Sunday. Maybe RH will pull a ”Leeds 0-2” onward performance, out of the bag but honestly I think it’ll only be just that, rather than a constructed reaction. Either way, I’m praying for a win but not really hopeful. I hope Mr Rose Tint is right but I fear not. Ps. He’s wrong purely on the grounds he think’s we played well against Wolves & Everton for 85mins! <doh> #deluded AV is a given on all fronts. Pps. And I’ll be there Sunday cheering / clapping / encouraging every kick. COYFS!!!
     
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  7. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Where the **** did I say that? Go on, find where I said that.
     
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  8. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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  9. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Nice that another fred turning into a positive/negative debate. It's what makes this forum so fun.
     
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  10. timatoketchup

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    Bit early for this mate?
     
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  11. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I'm just sick and tired of being mis-quoted. What I actually said last week was that while the first half against Everton was awful, we got away with it. Particularly when we went 1 up early in the second half. Then we just threw it away inside 5 minutes. I never said we played well against Wolves, just that we didn't play particularly badly and we should have got a result there if only Che hadn't ****ed up with an open goal.
     
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  12. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

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    What you actually said in your reply to me was

    "[As well as the Villa game] we had 5 terrible minutes against Everton. Other than that we've played ok"

    So whilst not saying we played well for 85 minutes, you basically said the performance was acceptable apart from the 5 minutes.

    Your point was apart from Villa and the 5 mins v Everton we have been ok this season, which I think most would disagree with.

    I'd say apart from the Chelsea game and 20 minutes against Leeds, we haven't actually played well all season. Even against Leicester we weren't overly convincing.

    And I have been firmly pro-Ralph since he arrived so this isn't some agenda against him.
     
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  13. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The first half against Everton was ok in the sense we went in 0-0. Nothing about the performance was ok. And TBH, we have been ok this season apart from Villa and that first half last week. I was at Leicester and 2nd half we were outstanding - excellent response to going behind. I think only the Chelsea game we've put a whole game together in terms of a really good performance but in most games this season we've had really good spells. If we had signed that striker we needed I think things would be looking much rosier.
     
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  14. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

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    Funnily enough I have literally just seen this on twitter. Can definitely agree with you on the striker/attacker point... what could have been:

     
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  15. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The only good thing about this is he's been so good it's scuppered any chances Leeds have of getting him (it sounded like they were much closer than us). He'll go to one of Europe's top clubs straight from PSV now.
     
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  16. Archers Road

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    Can’t tell if you’re being negative or positive here…
     
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  17. garysfc

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    Well / ok ? Semantics in my book. Anyway, it’s been taken over now. UTS & on a positive; at least we won’t be bottom Sunday :emoticon-0169-dance
     
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  18. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    It takes courage to voice unpopular opinions mate. Don’t be bullied into following the herd.

    2nd half against Everton we were unlucky. And Everton aren’t ****; I genuinely can’t see what everyone is complaining about. But most peoples perspective is entirely coloured by results. The last result, generally.
     
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  19. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I can see why people are TBH. Everton's away record is notoriously **** and everyone had that one down for 3 points (myself included). Home games are so important in the PL so I do get the negativity to an extent. But we're a week on from it now, can't change it, time for the next game.
     
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  20. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I think the current issue is, that generally at the start of seasons where we’ve had an iffy run, the quality has been there, and you can at least see what Ralph and the team are trying to do. My concern this season is that I can’t see that pattern, it’s really just a rehash of what we were doing at the end of the last campaign (please people, try and resist the tedious ‘last year does/doesn’t matter’ thing!)
     
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