I'm talking about the leaders of the country choosing to bomb civilians not some terrorists killing people. Are Ukraine bombing Russian towns?
After the last 2 years of covid propoganda and fear porn , the weapons of mass destruction hunt , the illegal invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia and arming and training Isis to topple Syria . Perhaps the BBC and western media may not always be 100% truthful when it comes to World events . Rolling black outs for Zelenskyy this winter guys just like the blitz .
It's not fine for anyone to murder innocent people with bombs , unless it's us and the Yanks doing it of course .
Yeah, because a few terrorists murder people. The people of Ireland must be very relieved Dunc wasn't in Government a few decades ago
But you're quite happy to believe that the killing of russian speaking civilians in Ukraine by neo Nazis? What source of media was that you saw it on and must therefore absolutely believe it as factual? Or did you read it on the back of a matchbox? Just asking like.
The United Nations confirmed the atrocities. I'm not pro Ukraine or pro Russia and have been against every war for decades , usually caused by America and Britain. It's hypocrisy to start clutching pearls when Putin kills people .
The UN have just had a vote to decide whether or not to have a vote on the Russians annexing Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/world/un-publicly-rejects-russias-call-secret-vote-ukraine-2022-10-10/
It is certainly indefensible to condone indiscriminate bombing of civilians in cities as Putin has done. We all know that the majority of nations in the West have been just as guilty in the past of utter abominations against innocent civilians but just to say that it's ok for "so and so" to do it because "another so and so" has done it is puerile in the extreme.
War is stupid and people die . I personally don't want to fund Ukraine to keep fighting an unwinnable war . Ukraine and Russia sat down for peace talks a few months ago and Johnson flew over to tell Zelenskyy to keep fighting. Ukraine aren't going to be offered a seat on Nato or the EUROPEAN UNION and their people will get slaughtered in a US funded proxy war for control of rare minerals and fossil fuel monopolies. Just like all the other wars for decades
The peace talks, as they're laughingly described, involved Russia offering the options of like it or lump it, poisoning the people there, and carrying out bombing raids on the peace corridors while the talks were taking place. It's maybe quite subtle, but I suspect that they weren't perhaps going into the talks with an open mind and a view for compromise.
Ukraine would be mugs to stop fighting now. The US and UK weapons have turned the war on its head. They've got Russia on the run.
Well Zelenskyy has bravely promised to fight until the last Ukrainian is dead , obviously not him or his family as his folks just bought a nice big multimillion house in Israel . He also recently asked America to nuke Moscow to show Putin what a nuclear war looks like. Probably drawing up a new map with Areas loyal to Russia would probably be better than Zelenskyy's suggestions. I certainly don't want to die over the midget comedians chutzpah
None of which has anything at all to do with the point you made that I responded to. You've tried just shifting on to something else when your argument collapses on several topics now. I thought you were taking the piss out of the lefties that tend to do that quite a bit.
Huh ? You suggested that the peace talks may be one sided and Putin will demand Ukraine gives up an area that borders Russia Yes , that would end the conflict... No idea about lefties or arguments collapsing, you are doing your Aldo argument thing . Ukraine have zero chance of beating Russia so it's probably sensible to stop.
I didn't 'suggest' that at all. I pointed out that your claim that "Ukraine and Russia sat down for peace talks a few months ago and Johnson flew over to tell Zelenskyy to keep fighting" was bullshit on a number of levels.