I say this whilst being a Liverpool fan myself - Liverpool fans have a sense of entitlement and have had for a good while. I'd say it started with Shankly who made us great with success and made the fans believe that they deserved it. We did. Liverpool had been in the wilderness for a long time and yet supported the team with all they had through the lean years. The Kop introduced singing into the football arena and melodic and witty chants never before seen or heard at a football ground. Hundreds of thousands turned out in the city when we won our first FA Cup with Shankly. He spoke about building the team up and up until 'they will have to send a team from Mars to beat us'. That rubbed off on the fans. We basked in the glory of the team and reflected it - the team was the best and so were we. Shankly built us fans up like the team - to expect the best, to appreciate and savour it and to want more. After lots of success you come to expect it and that's where the entitlement creeps in. I don't personally feel entitled to the team's success but I can see that, as a fanbase, it is or has been an appropriate assessment. You have to have had great success in order to still feel entitled to it. If we hadn't have had the continued drip drip of success over the years the entitlement may have gone away. It's been watered down but is still there.
We're on the best and biggest clubs in the world. We should have a sense of entitlement, and demand success. Winning mentality.
Nah, entitled to nothing. All clubs plastics get uppity. Only hard work brings success. Players, managers, owners and culture of delivery. Nobody is entitled to anything in sport. We are personally fortunate to happen to have a big well supported club. But the difference between us and a Newcastle or take your pick is not really size of city or size of ground but history and exposure and a bit more professionalism in the past. Lfc could be as small as everton are right now. Or Leeds. Leeds in the 1960s could have been the lfc of the 1970s and 80s but ****ed it up. We've not quite exploited the global reach as much as man utd did and then again arsenal could have but did worse than us imo. We are just lucky to be where we are and shouldn't forget that. In 2010 a lot worse or better than fsg could have grabbed us tbh. Could be Qatar or another bunch of ****s. We are where we are, we are going to have to keep working hard to deliver results
It's like comparing a donkey with a thoroughbred. All the donkeys were merrily competing against each other when a lucky owner gets a windfall and buys a thoroughbred as his entrant into the race. You can hardly say it was hard work that won him the race.
i slightly differ on this as the real difference is that City can "afford" to have in effect 2 PL teams and if a new signing turns out to be a dud just buy another one .
City are like an average family plodding along, harmless but uninspiring - and then they win the lottery and manage to convince themselves they deserve to be rich.
I'm sorry but you lads cannot possibly deny that all the vastly paid, top of their profession, manager, coaches, players and technical directors do not work very hard to deliver. That's just not being realistic. They do work very hard
Well, if City win everything this year and next, and with Haaland they could, I agree that the Prem will become less interesting. Despite Arsenal and the great start they have had, it seems like a procession already. I hope I am wrong but nation states ownership has destroyed the Prem
Arsenal are never lasting cos there's still 4 or 5 flakes in that aide when the cold weather really grips. Ramsgate is a **** keeper. Lb is a weakness Partey should be in court Odengaard is actually weak kneed imo
Things can change very quickly though. Haaland is in great form atm, he's clearly a very good player but he cannot sustain these standards. Plus, & I don't wish this on any player, what if he got injured?
There is an obvious way to reduce Harland's effectiveness. He is a big Samson like unit, so if VVD hid some scissors in his sock then at a corner cut Harland's hair off....job done.
My last word on the Holland debate. His first 20 goals. 15 tap ins and 1 penalty, the rest where not spectacular. Nial quinn would have similar numbers if he played for City. I'm unsure if the link will work. But it's worth a watch to dispel the myth that he's some how extraordinary
He's a finisher. A bit better than quinn in fairness. City get 75% possession so he will get 5 or 6 chances every game. Lfc get that but nobody goes in the box. If we actually hlget nunez going I am sure he will fire quite a few of his own. But haaland is a goal a game player in every league he has been to. He's is headed ro do that with city. No need to knock him to feel better about our own team. Same as knocking city's work ethic. The only thing about city is the blatant cheating financially.
