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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  1. kiwiqpr

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    Russia's ambassador to the US, Anatoly Antonov, said it was an "immediate threat" to Moscow, describing the US as "a participant of the conflict".

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    The latest hardware being sent to Ukraine includes more High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (Himars)
    By Yaroslav Lukov
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    The US's decision to send more military aid to Ukraine "increases the danger of a direct military clash" between Russia and the West, Moscow has warned.

    Russia's ambassador to the US, Anatoly Antonov, said it was an "immediate threat" to Moscow, describing the US as "a participant of the conflict".

    Earlier, the US announced another $625m (£547m) in military aid to Ukraine.

    Advanced US weaponry has been credited with helping Ukraine build momentum against occupying Russian forces.

    Ukrainian troops have made significant advances in the country's north-east and south in recent weeks.

    The latest US hardware includes another four of the high-precision Himars multiple rocket systems.

    In all, Washington has committed nearly $17bn in military support for Kyiv since Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on 24 February.

    In a statement on Thursday, Mr Antonov warned that the US decision "to continue pumping the Kiev regime with heavy weapons only secures Washington's status as a participant of the conflict".

    He said this would result in "protracted bloodshed and new casualties".

    "We call on Washington to stop its provocative actions that could lead to the most serious consequences," the Russian ambassador said.

    After suffering a string of major defeats on the battlefield in Ukraine in recent weeks, Russia has vowed to defend itself with all means available - not ruling out the use of its nuclear weapons.

    Moscow is also pushing ahead with its annexation attempts of four Ukraine's regions: Donetsk and Luhansk in the east, and Kherson and Zaporizhzhia in the south.


    However, Russia does not fully control any of the regions, and Ukrainian troops have been making rapid advances in the Kherson region in recent days.

    Mr Antonov's warning comes shortly after US President Joe Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris discussed further military co-operation with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    In a statement, the White House stressed that "the United States will never recognise Russia's purported annexation of Ukrainian territory.

    "President Biden pledged to continue supporting Ukraine as it defends itself from Russian aggression for as long as it takes."

    The statement said the new military aid package included "Himars, artillery systems and ammunition, and armoured vehicles".

    The US-made HIMARS -High Mobility Artillery Rocket System - have been used to hit Russian targets such as command posts and ammunition depots.


    It has also been used to target bridges, including those on the approach to Russian-occupied Kherson, which Ukraine is trying to reclaim.

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    How Ukraine could achieve victory against Russia: As Kyiv's forces advance in the south and east, expert lays out the path to victory - with all roads leading to Crimea
    By Chris Pleasance for MailOnline08:14, 05 Oct 2022 , updated 11:57, 05 Oct 2022

    • Ukraine is gaining ground against Russia in both north and south, as potential path to victory emerges
    • Ben Hodges, a former US general, believes both attacks will converge on Crimea via Kherson and Mariupol
    • Mark Hertling, also a former US general, agreed that Crimea is the goal - but warned it will be 'a tough fight'
    • Pair spoke as Putin called up 300,000 reservists, annexed territory and threatened nukes as his invasion fails
    This war began with Crimea and must end with Crimea - with its liberation,' President Volodymyr Zelesnky declared back in August. And, according to military experts, that is exactly what his generals are aiming to do

    Ben Hodges, former commander of American forces in Europe, has outlined what he believes to be the Ukrainian route to victory - going via the cities of Kherson and Mariupol and ending 'when the last Russian soldier crosses the [Kerch] bridge out of Crimea.'

    General Hodges, now at the Center for European Policy Analysis, believes Ukraine's main effort will remain capturing Kherson in the south - where a major assault has been underway since early August - with a secondary attack hooking down through the Donbas and towards the city of Mariupol.

    When Mariupol falls, he told a CEPA conference last week, those troops would also converge on Crimea - hammering the peninsula with HIMARS rockets and forcing the Russians back beyond the border.

    Dr Mike Martin, a visiting fellow of war studies at King's College, also raised the prospect of a third assault with Ukraine using its reserves to split the Russian frontline in two and making it difficult for Putin to move reinforcements around as he gave his own thoughts on Twitter.

    Nothing is guaranteed in war, and Putin will certainly do everything in his power to stop Kyiv - from piling conscripts on to the frontlines to possibly using a nuclear weapon.

    But, as Ukraine's path to victory becomes clearer, MailOnline examines how it could play out...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...victory-against-Russia-according-experts.html
     
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    whats he lost
     
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    Guy Verhofstadt
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    Germany agrees €200bn energy package while opposing EU gas price cap & joint purchasing. Mr Scholz, where is the collective solidarity?
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    European responses were delivered to the pandemic, Putin's war. We need one for the energy crisis! #NGEU


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    ft.com
    German €200bn energy support plan sparks ‘animosity’ within EU
    Scale of domestic aid prompts backlash as bloc tries to forge united response to high prices


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    I don't know enough about the Ukraine-Russia war, so happy to be educated by those who have followed it more closely, but my gut tells me that as soon as Ukraine starts attacking Crimea, things could escalate.
     
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    How dare they try to take back their own territory
     
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    Four people stabbed by bike thief in Khan's lawless London
     
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    Royal college of nurses to vote on striking for the first time ever in over a hundred years of existence in Tory Britain …

    I’m sure it’s their fault though.
     
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    They've been firing missiles into Crimea for a few weeks now, hitting ammo stores, military bases and logistics
     
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    Should have stuck to my first 8 words or so.
     
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    racist cops nicked the first black person they saw
     
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    Bishop Hill

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    The accounts for Kincardine, the UK's second floating offshore windfarm are out,
    and we now know that it cost £398million to build,
    or £8m/MW.
    That's ten times the capital cost of a gas-turbine,
    but delivering only half as much power, and then intermittently.
     
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    John Longworth
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    The UK has the second-lowest ratio of government debt to GDP of the G7 industrialised nations.
    Headline inflation at 9.9% is below the eurozone average.
    On top of that, Britain isn’t in recession as feared.
    The economy grew 0.2pc during the three months to June
    -WE ARE DOING WELL
     
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    The NHS spends Russia’s entirely military budget once every 100 days. If the NHS was a military, it would have the 3rd highest funding in the world, only surpassed by the US and China’s militaries.
     
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