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Iran v Israel - Who is the real villain?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction, Sep 5, 2011.

  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Please don't change the subject, I take it you have never seen the video of the Mavi Marmara's Captain being interviewed?
     
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  2. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Israel considering preemptive strike on Iran

    You heard right. Israel has described Iran, who has not committed military aggression against another nation in over a century, as "the most dangerous threat to world order". They are now looking to protect their status as the only nuclear capable nation in the region, against International Law, by seeking preemptive strikes which risk huge repurcussions for the entire middle-east region.

    I know who the risk to world peace is here (hint: its not Iran) but I have to agree with his sentiment on world order. Rogue states like Iraq previously, Libya, Iran are a huge stumblig block in the implementation of the New World Order hence why the heads of state are in the process of being systematically removed and replaced with controllable puppet governments.
    Iran is currently the most serious stumbling block that exists to them at this time hence a growing sense of momentum toward military involvement in the country.
     
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  3. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    A fantastic user comment below the article

    "Let us briefly review our recent historical background knowledge of Iran.

    At the commencement of the hostilities of WW2 Iran declared neutrality, this declaration was ignored by the allies who invaded!

    In 1953 Iran held its first democratic election and a Dr Mossadeq was elected Prime Minister! He indicated he was going to pursue an independent course that would benefit the Iranian people, not align himself with any other country's interests. This was not acceptable to either America or Israel so the CIA engineered a coup that replaced Dr Mossadeq with the despotic Shah who was a was a very compliant American / Israeli puppet!

    The Shah used his dreaded SAVAK, trained by MOSSAD to silence any Iranian suspected of harbouring dissent. Thousands dissapeared never to be seen again, thousands more Iranians were tortured! When a people suffer they tend to turn to their religion that was when they became vunerable to the Mad Mullahs! The CIA plotted and carried out their plan for the coup from American structures in Iran that enjoyed diplomatic immunity so they violated diplomatic protocols established over centuries, hence the American hostages!

    America then armed Saddam and used him to wage a proxy war against Iran, a million Iranians died in this war! On 8th July 1988 an American naval vessel in Iranian territorial waters fired on an Iranian Passenger Jumbo Jet murdering some 290 Iranian civilians!

    Iran is largely a made in America problem! Remember it has not invaded any neighbouring or other state for centuries! Also, the lesson of the Iraq invasion and occupation has been learnt! If Iraq had possessed the nuclear deterent America would have hesitated to obey Israel's instructions to invade and occupy Iraq, thereby precipitating a chain of events that resulted in the destruction of Iraq's infrastructure!

    In fact since Iraq all countries must realise that it is a priority to develop a credible nuclear deterent or suffer the same fate as Iraq if they their leaders develop the courage to offend Israel!

    Israel's nuclear arsenal poses a very real threat to the whole region and well beyond!

    In conclusion, Iran has some reason to be, to say the least, "unhappy" with the West and in particular with America together with America's slave master, Israel!

    Both these states share the blame for the present day Iranian situation! Worst, they are responsible for the lesson of Iraq, nuclear proliferation offers the only protection from an American invasion!"
     
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  4. Mind The Duck

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    If you HAD to pick a country to live in...

    Would it be Iran or Israel?
     
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    Completely irrelevant to the question posed by the thread
     
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  6. Mind The Duck

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    So Israel then <ok>
     
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  7. EDGE

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    Jesus Christ, Jacky - you really are a demented and paranoid mess.

    Why don't you do us all a favour and blow yourself up in Tel Aviv, or go to Iran and live in the wonderful democracy?

    Either that or shut the **** up you dope smoking mutant.
     
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  8. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Well neither really, both an equally unattractice prospect. But it remains irrelevant to the thread. The question is who poses a greater threat to world safety.
     
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    Anything that shows a slight inkling of knowledge of the issue to contribute EDGE?
     
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    ????
     
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  12. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

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    It's about time you blew yourself up for the cause Jacky
     
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  13. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    I dont remember displaying any militancy. Your lack of on topic responses betrays your inability to defend Israel's actions by way of proper debate
     
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  14. Mind The Duck

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    Iran

    Any action they take would have consequences

    Any action Israel take will be ignored
     
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  15. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    This is why i don t stay up late smoking bud and watching you tube vids, it always ends up Illuminatti lizard people or NWO, jew hating..........If you call me a sheeple Jacky for not wanting to embrace Iran and Palestine then i hope you detonate yourself in your best sandals for the cause.
     
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  16. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Dont smoke bud, nothing against it just cant justify spending £30 on something that will be burned up in no time.

    Lizard people? Dunno what thats all about, sounds stupid.

    Illuminati? Dont think I have ever mentioned that word in this forum.

    Again how does me trying to highlight international double standards suddenly make me a suicide bomber? Yet more typical ****e from another typical Daily Mail reader
     
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  17. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    I don t read Newspapers Jackie unless i find one on the tube, Israel and Palestine will never sort their **** out so picking a side and posting your claims on a Scottish footy forum is just stupid..... I imagine your parents are Westernised muslims and you feel a sense of belonging to beardy sandal wearing jew haters...
    At least you are free to express your opinions here, God bless America
     
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  19. Lucaaas

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    No offence but just because they haven't in over 100 years, then it doesn't mean they aren't going to in the next 100 years.
     
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  20. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    No i was born a catholic but in disgust at organised religion in general I am now strongly agnostic. No muslim ties whatsoever.<ok>

    A neutral viewpoint has allowed me to cut through the misinformation spoonfed to us and allowed me to reach my own conclusions on the issue.
     
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