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Match Day Thread Fulham Away

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  1. NUforever

    NUforever Well-Known Member

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    There is nothing wrong with that though..
     
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    I expect nufc to lose every game
     
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  3. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Hope and expect are two different things.
     
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  4. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    I expect us to win but I know that won’t happen that often. I don’t then get in a tizzy because I didn’t get what I expected
     
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  5. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    What’s a tizzy?

    I think if we don’t beat Fulham we have had a poor start to the season.

    1 win in 8 isn’t good. That’s not a Tizzy. That’s just plain fact.
     
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  6. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    1 loss in 8 is good
     
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  7. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    I agree that.

    But 1 win in 8 is bad.

    Admit it.
     
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  8. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Not really. If we had played like **** on all 7 non wins then I’d agree with you but we’ve been extremely unlucky with decisions and only one poor game
     
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  9. Rum & Black for 2

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    No.

    No.
     
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  10. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    I agree with that. Big points mean prizes.

    We can’t be blinkered here.

    Lose this next game and it’s 1 in 8 wins.

    That’s simply not good enough.
     
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  11. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    1 win in 8 is Bruce stats. And he would get slaughtered for that. If we lose.

    Are we judging managers differently these days?
     
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  12. Rum & Black for 2

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    This is what never ceases to amaze me….Fat Boy having a free hand to type and not full of food.

    Seriously though, other Clubs are spending as well. We were either 7th or 8th highest spenders in the last window. We are starting from a low base and are playing huge catch up.

    It will take time. Just enjoy the journey.
     
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  13. Rum & Black for 2

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    No. As I have tried to tell CC in the past, it’s a question of looking at the full picture not just one part of the jigsaw.
     
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  14. Obi Wan

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    Have to agree with Trev here. If you really want to keep comparing Howe's first 7 league this season, with Bruce's first 7 last season, then here you go (analysis bases on BBC match reports):

    BRUCE:
    WINS = 0
    DRAWS = 3
    DEFEATS = 4
    3 points
    8 goals scored
    16 goals conceded
    0 clean sheets
    Ave. 43.1% possession per game
    Ave. 13.3 attempts per game
    Ave. 4.7 corners per game

    HOWE:
    WINS = 1
    DRAWS = 5
    DEFEATS = 1
    8 points
    8 goals scored
    7 goals conceded
    3 clean sheets
    Ave. 50.4% possession
    Ave. 15.3 attempts per game
    Ave. 7.6 corners per gane

    So, under Howe that's:
    - More wins
    - More points
    - More possession
    - More attempts on goal
    - More clean sheets
    - Fewer goals conceded (less rhan half)

    The only stat that isn't 'better' is the goals scored (equal to Bruce). But bearing in mind we have Wilson, Bruno and ASM coming back from injury, that stat will hopefully improve soon.

    No, 1 win in 7 isn't great, but we are much, much harder to beat now. We play in a different style that puts us on the front foot, creating more chances, instead of backing off and hoping for a lucky breakaway goal.

    Could it be better? Yes
    Is it already way better than Bruce? Yes
     
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  15. Obi Wan

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    Also, 5 of the 7 goals we've conceded were against Man City & Liverpool.

    Forest, Brighton, Wolves, Palace & Bournemouth have only managed to score 2 goals between them.

    And I won't even go into the "what if's?" of VAR and ref decisions.
     
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    Wasted scroll.
     
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  17. Obi Wan

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    OK, summary = the facts prove we are performing better under Howe than under Bruce.

    So people can stop comparing them as if Howe is somehow getting special treatment.
     
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  18. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Wow. 9/10 for effort. But 6/10 for objectivity.

    This is a results industry. All the other crap is irrelevant. We lose our next game and it’s a bad start to the season.

    1 win in 8 isn’t acceptable. At any level.
     
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  19. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Performing and results are two different things mate.

    Reality is we have won 1 game this season which is ****ing crap.
     
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  20. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Howe is getting special treatment. If Bruce had spent 200m and performed like this season he would be under pressure.

    Why do people give Howe an easy ride? It’s not good winning 1 in 7 games after spending 200m.

    This it takes time crap is bollocks.

    If we don’t win our next game it’s 1 in 8 and that 1 win was against Forrest.

    Then people will start to say , well it’s not Howes fault what he inherited.

    But those very people where happy to slag of Bruce????

    Come on.
     
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