This is only a guess, but I doubt you'd have made the same response if he'd spoken at the Tory Party conference in support of Truss?
they havent had one yet! and likely they would have said ... who is that? and I dont mean Liz! Itv interviewed a number of people in area of the conference, and apparently one of them Who is that in regard to Sir KS!!!!
There are only 321,000 people in the UK earning more than £150,000 a year. Data from Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC) by area shows that around 123,000 of the high-income earners, nearly 40 percent, live within the London area. Topping the list is the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC), with another borough, Westminster, in second place. Each borough has around 12,000 individuals on incomes of £150,000 a year or more. The top seven on the list of high-income earners are all in London.
[ DIDNT MEAN TO PRESS POST BEFORE ] At 17th is Cheshire East, including affluent towns such as Wilmslow and Alderley Edge. Adjacent to Manchester, they are known as the “Golden Triangle” and are home to many wealthy Premier League football players who play for clubs in the region. HMRC data shows that just 31,000 people in the UK, out of a population of over 60 million, are in the top 0.1 percent income bracket, earning more than £1 million a year. [ THAT IS just a small % just 1 in 10 [ 321,000 earning over 150k ] 321,000 earn more than £150k good luck to them [ mind you footballers make up a pretty high number of £150k ! ANY EARNING OVER £2900 per week! any on £20k is over a million When it comes to annual income, a salary of £80,000 would put someone firmly in the top 5% of UK earners. According to HMRC taxpayer data from ...
You’ve been trying to put me in a box for a while RP. I don’t think I fit with either ‘wing’. I hate powerful unions and especially strikes (unless over health and safety) I hate ‘positive discrimination’ - to me all discrimination is negative. I can’t stand wokeism. I hate Sturgeon all this would make me right wing according to some but - I hate ogliarchs who command huge wages which they smuggle away offshore and pay little or no taxes. I hate utility companies who exploit a crisis and profiteer hugely on peoples misery and the essential need for the product they sell. I hate big companies that swallow up smaller companies - then close them down and bin off the employees (Kraft vs Cadburys etc) I hate that we have sold off almost all of our big companies to foreign conglomerates who are not in any way obligated to the UK I guess that makes me a lefty in some peoples eyes. I won’t even go near Brexit - that transcends political ‘wings’ and can’t be labelled left or right - although activists from both sides try and pin it to the other. Governments are supposed to protect the country and prevent these things from happening.
BCRW.... Freedom of speech, freedom of thought and own opinion of what transpires nothing wrong in that .... This is actually a complicated issue, but agree not nice, down to their consciences to make amends 1 or 2 have!! ACTION! ... this down to the OFGEM people to sort. I hate big companies that swallow up smaller companies - then close them down and bin off the employees (Kraft vs Cadburys etc) I hate that we have sold off almost all of our big companies to foreign conglomerates who are not in any way obligated to the UK totally agree with that Utilities are swamped by them. Note ELECTRICITY could be a lot cheaper but it is tied to oil and gas in some weird way read about it didnt mark it so cant find it now ....
R&W I don't always agree with you, in fact I enjoy pushing some of your buttons awaiting a responce, some of the points you raised on either side of left and right I found my self agreeing with you, my head was turning both ways, you got me worried, you are an individual, obviously articulate and I believe a remainer, I am a total leaver, always have been. Keep it up mate, I don't have any faith in the EU, they've pissed on us many times but I admire a free mind, I love the fact in this country we can all dance to different tunes but hear the same rythm.
bcrw had a eureka moment try one of my other computers and lo and behold found part of it the wholesale electricity price is set by the last power plant needed to meet overall demand. Wind farms, nuclear, coal and gas plants and all other generators bid into the power market, with the cheapest sources coming in first, followed by pricier sources like gas. Gas plants often set the price in this system. [gridsupply?] notes I did sort of cover this on another thread .. to do Sir KS and his green energy thing ... Clarification on my part. Imagine a nuclear power station can supply power at 10p a kw another at 15p a kw but a wind farm can at 12p a solar farm at 13p [ so fit between 2 cheapest nuclear, a gas plant at 17p comes next then solar nuclear and wind at 20p and finally the last to supply the grid a gas plant at 25p.... that gas plant dictates the price of wholesale Electric. SO? all those cheaper are making more money? Say you and 200 neighbours bought a south facing field on a slope put in x number of solar panels and tapped into the grid at x pence based the purhase of everything on a return in 10 years or less and and that farm generated at 15p to make a profit you would get 25p.............. however this is just an example of how it works ..... your little farm wouldnt qualify as a national grid supplier ...to small, but what you got as a company a feed in tariff shared out would give you money to reduce your bills.... a house might have 8 panels on the roof and get £x return individually a field like the one by junction 16 could give you maybe 15 - 20 each! !!!!! savvy farmers are putting a 100 panels on cow sheds and some using roof heat exchangers in the roof to benefit from the heat given off by livestock .... cows then get warm water udder wash's instead of cold!
Thank you Wiz My points were that my own personal opinions transcend traditional political divides. I believe that I'm not alone in this - plenty or people share many of my views, but when it comes to an election we have to choose between parties that only offer to cover HALF of them, so I have to select one to vote for who I dislike the least. It's a heavy compromise. I AM (still) a Remainer it's true, but mentioning Brexit in this thread wasn't with the intent of resurrecting that old debate about its pro's and con's. The reason I mentioned it was because Brexit is an excellent example of a HUGE political event which transcended traditional political allegiances. Despite the likes of Diane Abbott claiming Brexit to be a purely right-wing ideology, championed only by Nigel Farage and supported by a bunch of racists, the demographics of the people who voted in favour of Brexit spanned across the voting bases of both the main parties. In fact, the highest concentration of Brexit votes were in the north of England; the traditional Labour heartland - they were LABOUR, socialist voters - the 'Red Wall' - explain that Diane...!! It wasn't just the electorate either - the parties themselves were split - Corbyn himself was a Brexiteer but he kept quiet about it at the time because the Tories were busy tearing themselves to pieces and he didn't want to interrupt that. Cameron on the other hand was a Remainer - as was May. The only party that was united on Brexit was the pro-Remain Lib Dems - and UKIP of course.
The last politician I truly respected was Michael Cocks MP, a man who Labour kicked into touch in 1986 when the left wanted Dawn Primadonna in a safe seat!! He actually walked the streets of Hartcliffe, Withywood and Highridge and spoke to people about their issues. The only politician who ever came into our house (on two occasions) and had a cup of tea and a biscuit with my Mum and Dad, whilst they chatted about the needs of the ordinary person. In my view, all of today's so-called politicians could take a leaf out of his book!!
I don't remember him I must admit. The last politician who impressed me was Hilary Benn (Labour). His speech about intervening in Syria to attack Daesh (ISIS) was one of the best speeches I've ever heard - not just WHAT he said, but the clear and articulate way he delivered it. He also had the guts to deliver it from the front bench stood right next to his boss, Corbyn - knowing that he would be fired to the back benches for it (which he was, almost immediately) - but he delivered it because it was the right thing to do. He received a standing ovation from the whole house (with a couple of notable exceptions) - and was sacked almost straight away. Here it is - for those who are interested - it really is worth watching if you are politically minded - from EITHER Labour or Tory persuasion: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjgwp3D3rn6AhUwSkEAHYAHBLAQwqsBegQIChAB&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_dRCzd19Uc&usg=AOvVaw13rJiCOQq_9XP11V6itlCZ
Another example of cross party cooperation was the denial of the majority British public vote of the referendum for 3 years, Labour led by Corbyn and Starmer, Lib Dems, the greedy, devious SNP, the band of treacherous Conservative MP's and Plaid Cymru, 3 years of stagnation completely destroyed the nations respect. When the MP's show respect to the Queen or one of their own upon death, whether natural or extremist, demonstrates they can all cooperate across the great divide and earn respect from their constituents. That's the good and the bad, the ugly is BoJo, his lies and disrespect for parliament, Rayner for her foul mouth and attitude, then of course you have the house of lords but we'll leave that for another day.
Wedgie was far and away the MP that I have respected the most in my lifetime. He probably turned in his grave about his son's view on Brexit. Like most who vote I pick the worst of a generally useless bunch of ....ers.
After reading all this I think we should club together and start our own party! On the back of straight talking and honesty, we would probably do reasonably well! Slightly off tack, but in a similar vein, a mate and former colleague of mine has become a local councillor. He is always straight talking/direct, and is as honest as the day is long. He got fed up with complaining about local things not being sorted, so decided to try and get involved himself as an independent. Much to his surprise, and many of his former workmates, he got elected!! Watch this space.
We should send JGF around canvassing, people will agree to vote for him just to get rid of him off their doorstep
He was well aware of Hillary’s more centre views and often said when asked he was proud of him, a good example in my eyes that there are things more important even than politics.
