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It’s a fact, Duggie.

 

They certainly seem too

Maybe when people make statements like that they should start with the word MY

 

Soz but....

 

Not being rude, but I very much doubt Blair costed Iraq into the Labour Manifesto, which in reality like all manifestos makes them pointless. It's a bit like Covid, it throws every manifesto out the window quite literally.

 

Then the costings should be shown, it's a great favourite of Labour to say "all fully costed" without ever showing it.
Like i said, easy to say when you don't have to produce.

When you talk of the **** show of the last 12 years i feel you are probably basing it on the last 3-4 years and paying no attention to what has happened globally in that time.

 

Funny you should mention costings ....

The Labour Party were discussing this new energy company or whatever it is they are going to set up, the reporter said they've talked about a price, I think it was £2Billion, but no one has seen any actual costings for it.

 

The Iraq war was funded by Brown changing tax regulation to Pension Funds to syphon of £5-6Billion a year for 13 years and people still, wonder why the pension pots were empty

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It wasn't all spent on The Iraq War, there was Afghanistan and Kosovo etc etc etc

 

Although it originally came in under a Tory government, it was a Labour government that signed off the final bit for state pension ages to be increased, showed how much they cared about the working people. I think we would have been subject to EU fines though if they hadn't signed it off, so it was a double whammy by Labour & EU, bastards.

 

In France you’d have retired by now.

 

I believe that Blair also wanted all millennials to go to University but instead of earning it they paid for it, University fees doubled and trebled as a result so now we have thousands of Graduates with Degrees not worth the paper they are written on and massive debt around their necks but Education Education

What do you say to a University Student with a Masters Degree in a McDonalds "Big Mac and fries please"

Does not apply to all of course but still part of the Blair/Brown scam called Government

 

Yeah well they didn't have Gordon Brown to syphon off all the pension funds. That's what Duggie told me anyway.

 

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A long and fierce Political Debate with out any pointless insults

Well played B Wood

 

Abe when he wakes up in the morning and see's all this on his thread.

 

I'm valleys born and raised a mining community so yeah obviously growing up all I heard was pro Labour and the reasons why they stood for working rights and a fair and equal society free from class divide.......then Blair happened and Labour was no more.....its either hard tory or soft tory these days.

So yeah excuse me if my background could never allow me too speak of a tory in high regard.

 

Some would have given hospital treatment they deserved not put on end of life pathway drugs and abandoned in a room without family..........fking disgusting the way you lot listened like a pet dog........yeah I'm nuts but even I spotted the lies.....what was your excuse dickheads

 

Saw this old report in the Guardian from a week ago, I post it up because I feel for the Guardian it's quite unusually a kind report. Although I never realised Pippa Crear worked for them now...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-she-bets-big-on-plan-to-turn-economy-around

 

Who the fook woke Abe up!

 

I'm all for talking me.....its a freedom worth keeping even if I get offended Id defend your right to say it.

 

I bin out on a social.......weird in i

 

Right joint ****.....sleep.... up half 4......then it's **** joint coffee

Night Jim bobs