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WAR! What is it good for?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Treble, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I'm sure China doesn't care tbh.

    Pulling Russia along with a carrot trying to waste some Western money.

    West happy to give over weapons and help the large corps sell more stuff, not a single **** given there.

    Putin is puppet who thinks he's grasping his own strings
     
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    “It is the function of mass agitation to exploit all the grievances, hopes, aspirations, prejudices, fears, and ideals of all the special groups that make up our society, social, religious, economic, racial, political. Stir them up. Set one against the other. Divide and conquer. That’s the way to soften up a democracy.”― J. Edgar Hoover, Masters of Deceit
     
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    “We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of… In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”

    Forget the puppets.... here's your real owners

    George saying it straight lol

     
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  4. Milk..

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    It does care. The war impacts them, both positive and negative ways. It's being economically impacted by this. On one hand it's getting cheap oil from Russia now but on the other hand it's hurting industry because it's companies don't want to come under sanctions from the west by dealing with Russia.

    China also had NATO being weakened in it's own best interests lest it find itself on the angry side of NATO in a few years. China is probably loving the free demonstration of the abilities of Russian and Western tech capabilities, it allows them to plan better for Taiwan in a few years.... And loving even more both countries sending so much resources from their own stockpiles to Ukraine.


    Edit:. Reread what you wrote and realise you probably meant China does t care about respecting borders... Not doesn't care about the war... In which case we're probably in agreement. Like all countries, what China cares about is "what is best for China".
     
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  5. Welshie

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    China's plan "our military should stop being corrupt, but since that suitcase full of money arrived, i can't for the life of me remember why."
     
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    Obviously these examples are cherry picked to make a point and take a side... But, plenty of people in Russia don't subscribe to Putin's war and trying anything they can to dodge the draft.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62992365.amp

    With no free press Russia, we'll never know what sort of percent these people make up, whether a handful, or the majority. Reading another article this am suggested that no matter how many people Russia calls up, they still have limited equipment, so many of these poor people are being sent to the front just to die unequipped and untrained.
     
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    How can you know that plenty of Russian people don't subscribe to Putin's war - you can only know what Western media tell's you, and unless you can speak Russian, the likelyhood of proving otherwise is extremely unlikely, especially as Russian media is now banned in the UK, by the British government, so much for that free press you speak of eh.

    Do you think that western media don't use propaganda as well, there were reports yesterday by SKY News of Russian protestors being arrested, as was quite rightly pointed out by a Russian spokes person in English, so do the UK not arrest protestors.

    Afterall we've seen a number of arrests of virtually harmless protestors during the Queens mourning days, just for holding up placards or for calling a certain individual a dirty old man.

    Funny how people choose to look at the world from one side of events.
     
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  8. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Has anyone actually met a conscript before? Not a reserve, a conscripted soldier.

    They have national service here in Norway, I wouldn't trust them to lock a door, let alone hold a battle line.

    These lads they're sending will use resources, accomplish nothing and a lot will die.

    Ukraine are using men who have been fighting for years now.
     
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    Such as
     
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    The power of TV hey.....haven't you tried role play for sex lol......me neither but its a thing
     
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    Lol.....George schooling the blind

     
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    A career politician who will change/alter his political viewpoints to suit his own desire for money and power.
    No better than Liz Truss.
    Disappointed in you Aber tbh.
     
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  16. Welshie

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    He kinda made out like the operations in both Iraq and Afghanistan were an invading force designed to conquer both countries and hold them.

    But both operations were about regime change and the regime changed in both countries, much more long term in Iraq than Afghan.

    So, his narrative and the way he worded it don't reflect the reality of the situation tbh.

    Russia a country he now lives and works in for a propaganda network on the other hand are attempting to invade and hold a country. Right now. Putin talks about it on live tv
     
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    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Hes one of them who's really loud and tries stand out with his fashion.

    When he was more front bench for Labour he was as clean cut and lock step as everyone else
     
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    Good on George he's found a real country to live in hey

    Apart from that the rest you said was a load of bollocks.....we needed to destabilise the regions and ran out of money in the process..........didn't you see our forces running from Afghanistan....I did
     
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    You shouldn't be dude......everyone's entitled to change with time....you just hope they learn from the past 2 make the future better.

    Now there's the difference between liz and george one took the path of truth the former taking a big rothschild dildo in thy anus for self interest
     
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    Anyway enjoy your day I'm outta yuh
     
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