From my point of view those "giving it large" are all the naysayers so I agree with you that they are indeed the "very people who lose their heads when we go out of competitions". As for "calling it like they see it" that applies to us all. We all do that and that was my point. We all watch the same things but see them differently. I mentioned optimists and pessimists because it's a neat way of describing outlooks. I don't however class pessimism as being the same as all around negativity. Pessimists fear the worst all the time, they don't moan incessantly.
Klopps already dismissed those. Doesn’t seem to be any substance behind the rumour either, exaggerated headline on a peice that says liverpool won’t be afraid to cut it short if it doesn’t work out. a long way from, klopp is unimpressed and will send him back in Jan because he’s not good enough after being at club 2 weeks.
Except he is not really from a pure numbers perspective. Bayern fans are comparing to an out and out no 9 amd of course goal.per game lewandowski. He scores a goal every 2 and always has doen plus bayern are making zero attempt to make the best of him. How old is Muller now? He's still there playing
Exactly. On the contrary its more likely we've let it be known the guy has asked for extra training and to play u21s to get fitter to counter this stupid rumour. Its hardly hard to make that rumour up anyway given the "confusion" over options to buy or not on deadline day. Its quite easy add that to the kabak deal and think that this lad will be dispensed with at the end of his loan. For me.... he's never a long term option as we'd have moved earlier if he was. He's the last minute cover. to play a few cup games and be an option if injuries persist.
As far as I'm aware, the rumour started in the Italian press. We all know how reliable and responsible they are.
Refusing time off over the international break, completing double training sessions, putting in extra hours at the gym and asking to play for the U21’s to gain more match fitness yet I was told his attitude stinks? Arthur’s trying everything he can to succeed here, love it. #stolen
Good to hear. The new Lucas. Maybe a little reviled at first but working hard to succeed. Hope he makes it.
If he becomes the new Lucas though, I'm changing my name to "Arthur Red Potato *2" in tribute to his greatness. (Because Arthur Red potato times two equals one red potato)
He is out of favour there and pretty much left to himself. Juventus papers got against him too, so he doesn't have a career there anymore. Now whether the papers and fans are fair in their assessment of him is yet to be seen, but clearly they are against him
He also did goodbye tweets when he left, so even if his future isn't with us, it doesn't look like he's planning for it to be with them.
Agree with this, but would add that presumably He has the chance to make himself a long-term option if he can impress us enough while here.