Match Day Thread Reading FC v Sunderland AFC – Wednesday 14th September 2022 – KO 20:00

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They're 4th in the league, so based on that (and results so far), they aren't too bad.
Could be they had a bad day and we had an amazing one. But I don't think any team would have coped with us yesterday.
We're the surprise package this season, other teams will eventually get wise to us, so expect things to get more difficult but I think we'll finish higher than anyone could have guessed
Absolutely. We've got to make hay whilst the sun shines. Teams will wise up soon enough as you say. Be amazing to get 3pts on Sat. Unlikely but possible
 
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Complete and utter rot! No-one wants him to fail, but we've all been watching football ling enough to recognise when a player isn't good enough. His agility, aerial ability and willingness to tackles makes him an ideal CB. His inability to play on the turn, retain possession in tight positions and poor decision making makes him a poor centre midfielder. No agenda, just opinion. It's no coincidence that his best performances for us have come at RB, RCB or CB
That might have been the wrong turn of phrase, but there are a lot waiting for that mistake which will be why it comes across like that. Seemingly desperate for him to misplace a pass to just say “he’s not good enough”
 
If anybody can find a GIF of Bennette's first touch in England as well please.

It wasn't particularly outrageous - it was just so silky smooth. Like the ball was part of his body. Like Thor's hammer returning to him.

Some times you can just tell with players. Bennette is special. We will be making a huge profit out of him. Huge.

That is the best description I have ever heard of someone's first touch. Bravo sir
 
Complete and utter rot! No-one wants him to fail, but we've all been watching football ling enough to recognise when a player isn't good enough. His agility, aerial ability and willingness to tackles makes him an ideal CB. His inability to play on the turn, retain possession in tight positions and poor decision making makes him a poor centre midfielder. No agenda, just opinion. It's no coincidence that his best performances for us have come at RB, RCB or CB

I wish it was, plenty have wanted him to fail at CM. Still do.

Now the second bit in bold is rot. If he had all those problems he'd be useless anywhere defence included.
 
I wish it was, plenty have wanted him to fail at CM. Still do.

Now the second bit in bold is rot. If he had all those problems he'd be useless anywhere defence included.
Centre halves do not need to play on the turn, they play with their back to goal, facing the play. O'Nien is excellent at that
Centre halves (usually) do not need play in tight spaces, they are the last line of defence before knocking it back to the keeper.

Clearly you are your son''s biggest fan Mrs O'Nien, but you have to face facts - he's a defender, not a midfielder
 
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That might have been the wrong turn of phrase, but there are a lot waiting for that mistake which will be why it comes across like that. Seemingly desperate for him to misplace a pass to just say “he’s not good enough”
The thing is, he isn't good enough to play in midfield. He could potentially play as a 10, but we have far better options in that position. He's definitely not a 6 or an 8, he doesn't have the ability for that. There's no shame in that and I think it's testament to the lad's hard work and determination that he's able to play so many positions - IMHO Right Back, or right side of a three are his best positions
 
Centre halves do not need to play on the turn, they play with their back to goal, facing the play. O'Nien is excellent at that
Centre halves (usually) do not need play in tight spaces, they are the last line of defence before knocking it back to the keeper.

Clearly you are your son''s biggest fan Mrs O'Nien, but you have to face facts - he's a defender, not a midfielder

You can say that like it's a fact but the actual facts completely contradict that. Never mind, you crack on with that belief.

I'd say he's both a CM and a CB and can play either role well. Arguably better in defence because he does seem to go up a level slightly when he plays there.
 
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Don't agree with this. Evans "failed the eye test" for a lot of us when we were in league one, I'm not sure how much stock I put in the eye tests of football fans judging by the ****e I hear around me at the matches.

Can't disagree as its only my opinion. I've always liked Evans mind.

What I do know however is when O'Nien considered leaving us summer before last, he was trying to get into several championship clubs but was clear he wanted to play midfield and the only offers he was getting were to be a defender like he had done in his good spell with Sanderson.

Again not for one second expecting you to suddenly drop your opinion as its a very valid one. Just that there's a lot of people who don't think he's up to championship level in midfield, but he's definitely up to championship level at RCB. I'd argue he could do a job in the Premier League at RCB for a lower team.
 
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Still beaming from last night but why did Reading sit off us? They clearly didn't watch the Boro game. Don't think teams will try to let us have so much possession in the future.

We didn't have a game like that in all of L1. Our players recently were clearly suited to a step up in class.

Solid at the back, nice and tidy in midfield and 3 amazing goals without a striker.
 
Our support was class tbh ... quiet in the minute's silence, loud for the National Anthem.

And the encouragement, in a souless tumbleweed stadium with only a stupid drum to provide 'atmoshere', was top class, we managed to turn the game into an occassion. Sky must have thanked their lucky stars that it was us and not the likes of Huddersfield. The young lads starting, and especially those on the bench, must've thought they'd 'come home'. It's incredible that KLD has so quietly brought us all together and, for the first time in years, there seems to be a common purpose and spirit.

It was a pleasure to be among the Sunderland support yesterday, we didn't quite match the team for once ...

... how long is it that we could say that <laugh>
You called it pre match Smug when you mentioned how many goals for/against Reading had, and that we could get at them which is exactly what we did, so well spotted that man.
 
Centre halves do not need to play on the turn, they play with their back to goal, facing the play. O'Nien is excellent at that
Centre halves (usually) do not need play in tight spaces, they are the last line of defence before knocking it back to the keeper.

Clearly you are your son''s biggest fan Mrs O'Nien, but you have to face facts - he's a defender, not a midfielder

Pretty sure these are opinions not facts

You might be right, but might be he was getting used to this level so now that he has, he might be ok in midfield.

But for now, absolutely happy with him playing at CB, and I'm sure he is happy with his performances there as well. Ballard is going to have to fight to get his place back, long may it continue
 
Don't agree with this. Evans "failed the eye test" for a lot of us when we were in league one, I'm not sure how much stock I put in the eye tests of football fans judging by the ****e I hear around me at the matches.
I watched an FA Trophy game the other night at the club I scout for, so I was sat with some coaches and club officials. Everybody was impressed with the opposition's 4. He had a great touch, great control, good range of passing. He definitely passed the eye test as he was clearly a very good player. His stats for that game would have been poor though as he was caught in possession several times (and eventually taken off). He wanted to play two touches all the time and our pressing was so good that he never got the time. The point I'm trying to make is that stats and the "eye test" don't always agree. That's why stats are used- to bring out the information that is missed by the eye.
Fwiw, I think we have better midfielders than O'Nien but I wouldn't rule him out as an option if we needed him.
 
Right centre back is easily O'Nien's best position, and I'm starting to think right back is Gooch's.

Gooch has looked every inch a championship level right back this season. I know he has his fans but I don't think anybody could have expected him to have stepped up the way he has. For me he's been our player of the season. He's very quietly under the radar become undroppable and also, for me, ideal captain material. Hard working, popular, aggressive, not afraid to shout at people.

Evans does a great job but seems the more quiet type. together they make quite a good "leadership team" (thanks for the memories LJ)

A big reason for Gooch’s current form is that he has O’Nein protecting him on the right of that defence. They are forming a really good partnership.
 
Is this the first time in 4 and a bit seasons that no one has wanted to shoot the Referee.
Didn't see the game but he's hardly had a brick thrown at him....metaphorically speaking of course.
He must have had a good game then?
He did, aye.
Thought another one of their players could have had a yellow for a studs down the leg tackle on Gooch, but otherwise let the game flow and played a few good advantages.
 
Is this the first time in 4 and a bit seasons that no one has wanted to shoot the Referee.
Didn't see the game but he's hardly had a brick thrown at him....metaphorically speaking of course.
He must have had a good game then?

Couple of dodgy decisions, like their player escaping a yellow after a high tackle on Gooch. Other than that I thought he tended to let the game flow despite their lot trying to kick our players quite a bit.
 
I actually see Ballard's role long term as replacing Batth. Batth has been great but seems the kind who will pick up injuries. Hope Ballard is back before they start.

O'Nien's aggressiveness and off the ball speed is so important at RCB and take a lot of the pressure of Gooch as @Daz says